windsuks wrote:Ha SupaEgo, I have an old 2009 North Freerace board and man those boards go in nothing, they ride flat compared to a tt, loads of volume, real wide in the tail and....use the large fins a heap!
You can not compare a raceboard to a tt?
Objective testing of previous versions of the "Infinity" showed it had inferior power to other kites in light winds, despite Epic's propaganda: http://www.thekiteboarder.com/2011/05/e ... te-review/davesails7 wrote:I've been riding a 2011 18m Dyno for the last few months and have been really impressed. I've ridden it while others rode…Epic Infinity…, so can compare low end by how I was able to get on the water vs. the others. Who knows what actual wind speeds were up in the air at the kite. I think side by side comparison is much more helpful than endless videos of a kite riding alone on glassy water.
vs. Infinity: Dyno was stable in the air, never fell out of the sky for 4 hours of light wind riding. Two guys with Infinities were struggling to keep their kites in the air most of the time.
The Infinity V3 failed in 8 knots (see below). The V2 performing in 5k? Complete bullshit.Dimitri M wrote: I have video of the Infinity V2 in action from 5 to 10 knots real soon. Did I say 5 knots!!!! No way..... !
SupaEZ wrote: I would have written (DimitriM) a check right there and then if his kite was better than mine...but it was not. I did get going earlier in the light wind that we had 7-9k max avg 8k. But he needed 7-11kn avg 9k.......which never happened.
SupaEZ wrote:His kite needed more wind to get going.
I was 100 ft away from beach on a full plane in 8k. He was 10 ft away from the beach on a sub-plane working hard not to end up on beach also in 8k. Right before we crossed (dead onshore wind) i am going South and he his going North… Made sure he saw me...i looked into the white of his eyes. Did a 6 ft air forward 1 1/2 transition with kite downloop to toeside and planed off on the other tack
For the short time we were both able to go out i did 5 type jumps/ transitions. Many with looping the kite effortlessly.
He was only able to get one 4ft air back roll transition and landed in an insufficient amount of water. He was then grounded.
End of story.
…the issue here is who is BS "ing" who here about LW performance.
I felt like i was riding against someone with a smaller size kite.....OOOPS i was !
It is IMPOSSIBLE to give a kite more high end without compromising low end. Hence, the Epic Infinity V3 will become even more INFERIOR in light winds.DimitriM wrote:…we are still working on perfecting the High end of the INFINITY v3.
Compared to the Core19m kite, the Epic Infinity V3 was noticeably INFERIOR; it certainly didn't have the "power of a 19m".Dimitri M wrote: Infinity V2 has the power of a 19 meter but turns like a 14 meter.
In response, the following was posted by a knowledgeable local:Dimitri M wrote:3 to 6 knots
SupaEZ wrote: ... the Patrick Air Force Base windmeter reading (is) just a few miles upwind of Dimitri: Wind was SSW 200 degrees...that is why the ocean is so glassy...i should know i live here 30 years. He was out between 2 and 4 pm.... we see clearly that the wind was always more than........... 10 mph .......those are government's wind meters....very accurate...
UKSurf wrote:Dimitri M wrote:The difference from the INFINITY V2 vs the FAT LADY is that the INFINITY v2 turns faster and has better pop. But the power is piratically the same after testing them.
Now the INFINITY V3 is something different.
Why did Momi design an inferior kite for Blade? I honestly think this claiming your kites are superior to everyone else's will only backfire. If it is better at one thing then it will be worse at something else, most people appreciate that kite design these days is about finely balanced trade-offs NOT one kite being better than another.
Kiteus Maximus wrote:Whatever dude. You created me. If you don't like me then stop creating me.
Of course, walking backwards with a kite is not a recognised way of testing its low-end, UNLESS you are making claims that it can fly in "2-4 knots". It would be EASY to test Epic's "2-4 knot" claim by putting up the Infinity in a school hall or similar & walking backwards at the standard walking velocity of 2.7 knots.Kite2Heaven wrote:PMU - you really are stupid if you are resorting to walking backwards with a kite !!! … Otherwise "ALL" wind readings are BULLSHIT just like yourself !!
Oldnbroken wrote:But it would have been great if the two of you could have at least gotten on the same board.
Was there not another Oxygen there to jump on?
Or maybe your twintip could have helped even up the line length and weight differences?
Dimitri M wrote:Hello Laughingman and Happy New Year. What happened this fall. You said you were coming down to the Outer Banks. I had a place for you and your wife to stay but never heard back from you!!!! I hope you are OK. Any way hope to see you this Spring in Hatteras. Email me once you know the dates. Can't wait for you to demo all the EPIC product.
A FreeRace board! ..you mean like a Sector?SupaEZ wrote:The board i was on is narrow and short.
...same efficiency as the Oxygen V2 IMO..no better
Made by North 2011 model and the name of it is Freerace
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