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 Post subject: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:34 am 
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I am trying to identify the difference between the Siren Switchblade Bar and the regular IDS Switchblade bar.

Looking at the pic on the Cabrinha website and measuring the throw from both bars (they are depicted side by side), is there supposed to be any difference in throw? The pics are deceiving because it shows the Siren bar sitting lower, but if you actually measure the throw, it is the same.

The pic on the website does not show this, but the Siren bar has extesnions on the depower handles, making them hang lower than on the regular IDS bar. But looking at the Cabrinha website, it shows the extensions as a part to purchase. So I guess you could just add the extensions the the IDS bar and get the same results??

So, given above, are there any real difference to the Siren bar vs the regular IIDS bar in terms of a rider with shorter arms being able to reach easier? I know the Siren kite supposedly has an adjusted bridal for less bar pressure, but this question is just in terms of bar reachabilty for a women with shorter arms/height.

http://www.cabrinhakites.com/quicklink-siren.html


Thanks for your help.


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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:57 am 
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Doubt there is anything different in them. Maybe the throw is shorter to fit the ladies a little better.


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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:01 am 
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we compared them side by side and the only difference we could see was the color
but maybe we missed something?


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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:25 am 
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I have been googling this for some time now and the only thing I found relating to the smaller size rider was that the depower rope has exensions on it and the supposedly the chicken loop is smaller which supposedly brings the bar closer to you. But realistically, how much closer can that bring it. 1"? Again, Im looking at the two bars side by side on the website and when I measure, there is no difference. Can someone from Cabrinha describe this better?


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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:44 am 
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The difference between the Siren IDS bar and the Standard IDS bar are:

Colour scheme
Smaller Chicken Loop on the Siren Bar
Center line adjustment extension handles on the Siren Bar

All other details are the same between the two.

The Centre line adjustment with extension handles is available as a spare part to add to the standard bar.

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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 5:47 am 
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So the throw on the Siren Bar is exactly the same as the IDS bar?

I only ask b/c my wife has short arms and always says it's difficult to fully sheet out the bar with some of the other bar systems we have. She was thinking of getting a Siren b/c of the supposedly shorter throw. But if it is the same...


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 Post subject: Re: Cabrinha IDS vs Siren Bar
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:42 pm 
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how far a bar needs to travel to "fully depower" is a function of the kite, not the bar. if she has to reach uncomfortably far out to get the relief she is looking for, then you need to adjust the line length settings. (or select kites that have a lot of power control with a short throw)

if the problem is the inconvenience of reaching the bar after it has been let go of on a bar system with a long throw and no stopper, your sol


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