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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby flaps1111 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:41 pm

Great post Pump me up. :clap: You're right about everything. I had a FS speed2 19 mts SA and its effective range was 8 to 12 knots with a door. I sold the first day it hit the water and then the beach sand and i had to activate the 5th line, what a mess with all that bridles¡¡¡

In flight the LEIs are infinitely better than the foils. Now I have a Dyno 18 with a range 8-18 knots with 85kg and I can't be happier with this kite.

Last summer I flew alongside a FS speed3 21 mts in 8-9knts and was so slow and boring and I don't think at all it had the same high end they say when the wind picked up lets say 5-6 knots more the Fs guy had to went out to the beach he was clearly over power with a 137x42 board.


By the way it's a pity that this becomes a leis vs foils thread.

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby zerogee_ca » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:54 pm

Nooooooooooooooooooo!!! not another 66 page "Bullshit Light Wind Claims" / LEI v. foil thread. :roll: :angryfire: :nono: :argue: :baby: :remybussi: :rollgrin:

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby 14ToeSide » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:56 pm

+2 for NO MORE BULLWASH!!!!

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby SupaEZ » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:04 pm

Zeeko wrote:i
For example, in 5knots of wind, my ride speed it around 18knots, in 7knots: 24knots approx
Ride easy,
Nicolas


WOW this is over 3 times that low wind speed that you do with your ZEEKO 21m2 and your foilboard

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby plummet » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:17 pm

edt wrote:
plummet wrote: get damaged heaps less than leis.


not if you put your kite in a tree


i've landing my speed 3 into a tree.... slowly peeled it out. no damage.

a barbed wire fence! no damage

light post.... no damage

drift wood.... no damage.

house.... no damage.


hahaha i sound like a bad flyer.
but all of those are landboarding in ultralite wind with those obstacles directly down wind!.

anyone who thinks leis are more robust that foils is just plain wrong.

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby plummet » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:21 pm

Infact 8 years of flying foils. zero canopy repairs.
4 years of inflatables. half a doz repairs with one torn in half. multiple small tears, scrapes and wholes.

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby edt » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:55 pm

plummet wrote:
edt wrote:
plummet wrote: get damaged heaps less than leis.


not if you put your kite in a tree


i've landing my speed 3 into a tree.... slowly peeled it out. no damage.

a barbed wire fence! no damage

light post.... no damage

drift wood.... no damage.

house.... no damage.


the bridle makes it a lot harder to get down. How do you get it down when it's 20 meters up in a giant tree? You gotta climb.

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby plummet » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:10 am

[quote="edt[/quote]

to be fair i haven't landed a kite 20m up a tree before.... geuss yourd be climbing lei or foil.
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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby SupaEZ » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:28 am

Back to topic :wink:

This 21m2 tube is 6% lighter weight than a 21m2 foil

That right there is quite an achievement in itself :winner2:

Not much to pump...3 struts + leading edge....2 1/2 minutes at most by hand pump to inflate

Deflating a big LW tube is quite faster than getting that huge amount of pillow air (1 psi).......

....trapped between the twinskins...and get it "all out" of those 2 small deflate velcro valves flaps

I did the test with my 19 Core vs SP3 21...i timed myself using both..tube wins overall

Setting up and "on water riding" with 19 tube = 5 min.....same thing with 21 foil filled up = 4 min
I can pump my 19 in 80 seconds at 6 psi
Packing down and leaving beach = 5 min.......same thing with 21 foil = 9 min.

9 minutes is a very long time especially when a thunderstorms is coming :wink:

The reason for using a large foil for LW is becoming virtually unnecessary in this day an age

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Re: The biggest tube kite on the market, 21 mts

Postby plummet » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:59 am

SupaEZ wrote:Back to topic :wink:

This 21m2 tube is 6% lighter weight than a 21m2 foil

That right there is quite an achievement in itself :winner2:

Not much to pump...3 struts + leading edge....2 1/2 minutes at most by hand pump to inflate

Deflating a big LW tube is quite faster than getting that huge amount of pillow air (1 psi).......

....trapped between the twinskins...and get it "all out" of those 2 small deflate velcro valves flaps

I did the test with my 19 Core vs SP3 21...i timed myself using both..tube wins overall

Setting up and "on water riding" with 19 tube = 5 min.....same thing with 21 foil filled up = 4 min
I can pump my 19 in 80 seconds at 6 psi
Packing down and leaving beach = 5 min.......same thing with 21 foil = 9 min.

9 minutes is a very long time especially when a thunderstorms is coming :wink:

The reason for using a large foil for LW is becoming virtually unnecessary in this day an age

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Think you need some training on how to pack up a speed 3. From pulling the landing strop i'm packed up in about 3 mins...


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