adrianoliguori wrote:Just found this: http://youtu.be/0PSz2I8drHY
Actually, I didn't know but I tried a 2012 Kahoona and bar... Not a 2013... The guy on the video says "it depowers ~ 80%..."
That's what I mean. These ~ 20% under experienced hands, it's nothing... But for whoever is learning, it might not be so good (depending on where you're riding, as I said earlier...).
kahoonas tend to spin pretty horribly when disabled onto an outside line. and there is enough drag that it is really difficult to get up the line to the kite if it doesnt stay on the ground.alexeyga wrote:Sounds like you have more issues with the safety system than with a kite that is just perfect for beginners.
Just leash it to one of the oh-shit handles and you'll have the 100% super-safe depower you're so anxious for. You'll be also stuck with a spaghetti-bar on just about every third QR activation, but hey - it's only 2013 and we still cant have it all!
she had 10h of lessons with an IKO certified teacher and she's at a stage she can ride but downwind... he couldn't make it this past weekend so I figured she could practice under my supervision...Anabatic_co_nz wrote:We all know the rule never teach your girlfriend! .
you got me thinking with this... i don't mean this kite is useless... I just think that a kite that doesn't fully depower under every circumstance and riding condition isn't ok for a beginner..Anabatic_co_nz wrote:Your specific location and requirements are quite unique and such a post headline "Best Kahoona - don't recommend for beginners" is way off the mark..
i think only a kid would act this way... i'm giving here my sincere impressions on this kite and luckily we're "building knowledge" in this forum about this kites with everyones opinions...Anabatic_co_nz wrote:I'm guessing you gave the girlfriend a big fright and you tried to save face by blaming the gear.
she lost her board and started body dragging... then dropped the kite perfectly on the edge of the window. she could easily put the kite back up again, but it dropped the same side as the current and two forces summed up. she got scared and decided to QR... after QR, it was still pulling her (but less of course)... then she fully disengaged letting go the leash...davesails7 wrote: Why did your girlfriend pull the quick release in the first place? Seems like an odd situation you describe.
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What kite do you think "fully depowers under every circumstance and riding condition"?adrianoliguori wrote:i don't mean this kite is useless... I just think that a kite that doesn't fully depower under every circumstance and riding condition isn't ok for a beginner.
davesails7 wrote:
What kite do you think "fully depowers under every circumstance and riding condition"?
No kite will do that. A fifth line kite will likely have the least amount of pull when you release to a leash, but there is still some pull.
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Thank you, bnthere... Thank you!bnthere wrote:davesails7 wrote:
What kite do you think "fully depowers under every circumstance and riding condition"?
No kite will do that. A fifth line kite will likely have the least amount of pull when you release to a leash, but there is still some pull.
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my friend this is not true. every kite will disable 100% when line tension is reduced to a single center line. that includes either of the 2 side centerlines, or an additional 5th line. some kites will also disable well onto a single outside line. some kites claim to disable onto both centerlines, this is highly kite specific, and debatably effective non the less.
as you said earlier, if you want 100% depower (disable) you have to leash to a single line.
it is pretty clear that the chick wanted to walk or swim back to beach as apposed to deal with flying the kite anymore. she released it onto the leash (like she should) it being a 2012 redline bar (double centerline "disable") the kite did not disable, or fall onto its LE, it probably just sat there on its wingtip at the edge of the wind in launch position continuing to pull her towards it exactly as it was while she was hooked in. happens all the time.
I think we have different definitions of "100%"adrianoliguori wrote:Thank you, bnthere... Thank you!bnthere wrote:my friend this is not true. every kite will disable 100% when line tension is reduced to a single center line. that includes either of the 2 side centerlines, or an additional 5th line. some kites will also disable well onto a single outside line. some kites claim to disable onto both centerlines, this is highly kite specific, and debatably effective non the less.
as you said earlier, if you want 100% depower (disable) you have to leash to a single line.
it is pretty clear that the chick wanted to walk or swim back to beach as apposed to deal with flying the kite anymore. ....
you see what I mean...
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