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Prices in brasil

Postby ben newman » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:56 am

Someone told me that prices in Brasil are soaring. He travels to Brasil almost every year and says that every time it gets more expensive.
I had a really good time at 2008 and prices were about 70R for a room in a pousada + breakfast.
what are prices like today? Are the soccer world cup + Olympic games affecting the economy ?

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby Caesar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:15 am

ben newman wrote:Someone told me that prices in Brasil are soaring. He travels to Brasil almost every year and says that every time it gets more expensive.
I had a really good time at 2008 and prices were about 70R for a room in a pousada + breakfast.
what are prices like today? Are the soccer world cup + Olympic games affecting the economy ?


Hi Ben,

Yeah, that is the problem here in Brazil. Every year on Jan 1st prices go up everywhere by more or less 10%. This year the government decided to put the wages up by 9% so the shop, restaurant and whoever else owners raised their prices by 10% (well *almost* every owner). They are just crazy here, not realizing they are sawing on the branch they are sitting on. The collapse might not be too far away if that continues (no economy can continue like that while every other country in the world works on a 1 to 2% increase at the moment).
It has nothing to do with the Olympics or World Games, those are relatively small and short events.

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Caesar 8)

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby Toby » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:51 am

Well, relative.

This season was cheaper than last, since the exchange rate was much better.
Last season 1 Euro = 2.2 Reais, this season 2.65 in average.

But prices will continue to go up. Industrialation is moving fast.

But still, you will find a pousada for 70 reais and lunch as much as you can fit on one plate for 7 reais.

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby Caesar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:57 am

Toby wrote:But still, you will find a pousada for 70 reais and lunch as much as you can fit on one plate for 7 reais.


...which was R$6.00 until 31st December 2012 (eg. Fast Frango). :(

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby nherbold » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:38 pm

..and how does influence the (kite)investment opportunity over there?

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Postby Caesar » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:42 pm

nherbold wrote:..and how does influence the (kite)investment opportunity over there?


Kite equipment is becoming more affordable for Brazilians. I would say the high inflation here does not influence kite investment opportunities, rather make them better since people have more (paper)money.

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby ben newman » Sun Feb 17, 2013 2:56 pm

So if i understand correctly there is an artificial increase of app. 10% each year in Reais.
These means that in 3 years prices will be 150%. IMHO it will destroy tourism and especially kite tourism....
was considering coming back this summer, but now i will have to consider other destinations...
I hope that at least this 10% inflation will be good for the local population.

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby Toby » Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:16 pm

Real estate investments are good. Specially around Pecem due to the big industry just being build there.
But basically, the whole coast of Ceara.
I just saw a new project, which I assume will be the new Buzios or like a Marbella, for really rich people. Even with a heliport etc. Crazy stuff. But for sure it is the best climate with its cooling wind!

I am sure there are many more cheaper places, but the question is, are they as good?
I have been around, and from what I need this is the best area.
Not for everyone though, but I am sure for quiet many people. I see more and more people moving here..or spending winter.

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby braveman » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:51 pm

I hope the inflation will stop growing artificially. I wouldn't want to pay a gazilion dollars for a room and food.

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Re: Prices in brasil

Postby peterheirman » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:23 pm

Ever hear of QE1, QE2, QE3 and the last (Dec 2012) QE4 ?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/12/12/qe4-is-here-bernanke-delivers-85b-a-month-until-unemployment-falls-below-6-5/
Thanks to QE4 they can print $85 Billion / month - every month !
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/12/12/qe4-another-big-step-down-a-dangerous-road/
The more Dollars they print the higher the prices in Brazil as the Dollar is becoming 'worthless'.


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