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SO_FL_Kiter wrote:Ultrex 12 1/16th has the 800 lb breaking strength, the 1/8 inch is 1900 lb.

Maybe for a center line, but not for flying lines.

oops meant 1.75mm 1/16th inch stupid english system measurements

Ultrex is not prestretched so you may end up with unstable line lengths. If interested in bulk line Edeldrid and Liros may be a better choice of supplier.

pwnd550 wrote:I have the hadlow id by flexifoil with the hadlow id bar, and man those lines are good! When they get tangled they are easy to deal with, and since theres some coating on it, they say its teflon, it seems that they wont wear off as easily as noncoated lines. Great lines

me too.

The ID Bar is the first bar i own, with which i have no problems concerning unequal stretched lines after some sessions on the water.
i also have a set of those q-power lines and they are not as good as those Flexi/Mutiny ones!!!
Also the Teufelberger ones stretch far more than these new Flexi/Mutiny lines.

Flexifoil says that there's a new technology used on those lines: "diamond technology"...?
To me it seems that these lines are made off a higher grade Dyneema with a better new webbing and a teflon coating that really lasts.

From a friend of mine, who sells Mutiny Kites, Mutiny uses exactly the same lines on their second generation 5-line bars, i heard these lines are produced in the Netherlands...

'did some research on the internet: and found this:
http://www.dyneema.com/emea/application ... ology.aspx
This Dyneema Producer DSM, located in the Netherlands, produces gloves partly made out off those diamond-technology-dyneema stuff. As far as i can imagine DSM Dyneema might earn the biggest part of their money by producing gloves and industrial stuff like that. Maybe they also produce those lines and if you read through the diamond technology-PDF, on this website, you get to know the facts about this new amazing Dyneema fiber, which brings no stretch to your lines on the water, even for heavier guys who prefer to snap back and loop their kite on the water a little bit harder.
These lines give a more direct feel and more pop to your kite too! Just try to use a different bar with other lines on the same kite and you'll feel the big difference on the water.

Any idea where you can get the Hadlow lines? I'd love to use them again, but haven't been able to find them.

FF usa store is down, and the international store doesn't offer it.

jakemoore wrote:Ultrex is not prestretched so you may end up with unstable line lengths. If interested in bulk line Edeldrid and Liros may be a better choice of supplier.

edelrid dont make 1.75mm 12 strand dyneema sk-75 800 pound unseathed poly coated for retail sale as far as I know which is what the ultrex is all they make is this climbing rope. Link me if you know where I can buy a 600 foot spool.

pixelpedro wrote:Any idea where you can get the Hadlow lines? I'd love to use them again, but haven't been able to find them.

FF usa store is down, and the international store doesn't offer it.

http://shop.flexifoil.com/kitesurfing/k ... -4m-350kg/

endorphin wrote:http://shop.flexifoil.com/kitesurfing/k ... -4m-350kg/

Feeling like a total dumbass, been to the site several times, and never saw them. Tnx

They're cheap too relatively, with the exchange.

Yeah the hadlow diamonds are getting the tick i reckon. Been on the site, and they are selling as 18 + 4m.
Am assuming the +4 is an extension?? 18m is an unusual line size in the kite world if thats correct

Yep. they are extensions because the Hadlow Pro has the weird 6 line split bridle thing. You can hang a 2nd set of extensions that attach to the front of the LE from the split point.

So the overall is 22m.