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dracop
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Need suggestions for new harness

Postby dracop » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:04 am

So my harness is wearing out, sticthing in multiple areas has seriously frayed and I no longer trust it.

I need a harness that can handle high velocity, high powered moves for a heavy guy.

I want a stiff, tight fitting harness that will not move and not go towards my ribs. It will get used hard by a 250lb fuy boosting in 35kts and working on corkscrews (triple kiteloop). Soft plushy cushions need not be mentioned - they would get crushed up in days.

After spending a day driving around Maui trying on harnesses here is what Ive come up with. Id love thoughts and opinions on these products if you are familiar with them. If there is another product Ive left out, feel free to mention it but keep in kind the target style.

Ride Engine - love the hardshell fiberglass back, stiff and feels good! I hate the spreader bar system and no matter how tight the shop guy and I went it still rides up when using a bar.

Dakine C1 - love the hardshell backing, hate the spreader bar and pad. Also what's up with the chinzy red plastic piece to secure the strap? That will break in minutes in my world.

Naish Mafia - overall good. Stiff backing but not as stiff as the hardshells. Lots of features, kike a release for the safety rope on the back of the harness.

North Styler - good overall harness, perfection of the old tech of harness imo.

Neil Pryde 3D Pro Hybrid w/ fancy new Spreader bar - overall felt great, stiff and I love the new fixed spreader bar. One concern I had was the metal plates in the inside face of the spreader bar system - that means metal touching your skin if you go shirtless and the velcro straps fall below the spreader pad (happens alot after time on the water). zPlus I could imagine small amount if skin getting trapped under those metal plates. Otherwise it looks like a fantastic spreader bar system. Has anyone tried this system yet?

I wish I could cobble together my dream harness - the RideEngine backing with Naish Mafia features and NP spreader bar system with fabric padding over those two metal disc plates.

One thing I will say - harness tech has seen alot of innovation these last few years. All of these harnesses felt better than my current harness or the ones my school uses to teach.

If anyone has experience with these harness - from failures to an opinion, please share as I am comparing them atm.

My current thoughts are the Naish Mafia, the North Styler, or the NP 3D Pro. I wish the two brands with hardshells had done a better job with the actual spreader bar systems.
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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby Frank82 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:15 am

Mystic Legend? It's quite stiff when I tried it on.

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby dracop » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:20 am

I wont buy Mystic again. Endless problems with the Clicker Bar 3.0 system. Mystics response was to keep sending me new spreader bars but all of the 3.0 systems had the same problem. I think its just not meant for that much force/resistance. .

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby Frank82 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:25 am

The Legend has a new closure system, no longer the clicker. It's like Ion's system.

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby dracop » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:37 am

I Will look into it then, they gave every major brand here in stores. Clicker Bar 3.0 looked like a great system but ended up causing me so many problems.

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby Mitaka » Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:22 am

I am also looking for a new harness and my winner is the Manera EXO harness. Try it if you can find one - very good back support + lots of features, including leash release.

The NP 3D Pro and the Mafia have replaceable straps which is a very nice feature regrettably missing by Manera.

I use customised spreader bar and the new NP harnesses are not compatible with it since the straps are asymmetrical. For the same reason you can not use the new NP spreader bars with other harnesses although they are available to buy separately.

The Mafia has too big back and side panels for my taste and I have the feeling that it slightly restricts my maneuverability and freedom of movement. The NP 3D Pro is also build for maximum support.

The Ride Engine has a much more compact shape but I also do not like the narrow straps in PU tubing for spreader bar attachment which can not hold high forces and get loose.

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby matth » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:45 pm

The red clip lock on the Dakine harness works just fine, I have been using them for years and have never had a problem.

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Tableview - Cape Town, South Africa
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Mui Ne Bay - Ham Tien, Vietnam
Style: Big Air :D
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2014 8m Naish Torch
2014 10m Naish Torch
2014 11m SS RPM
2014 12m LF NRG
2013 16m LF NRG
2015 17m Blade Fat Lady v3
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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby dracop » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:24 pm

Hmmm in researching the Naish Mafia it seems to have been replaced in their lineup bu the Naish Arsenal. Anyone familiar with the differences between them?

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby Rufusz » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:18 am

Mitaka wrote:I am also looking for a new harness and my winner is the Manera EXO harness. Try it if you can find one - very good back support + lots of features, including leash release.

I agree great harness without useless features.

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Re: Need suggestions for new harness

Postby Jake-Skymonster » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:31 am

Definitely go for the Manera EXO - by far the most comfy harness I've ever used. Superb quality materials, doesn't ride up and properly supports your back.


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