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Manuel V
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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Manuel V » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:28 pm

Simair,

I weight 73 Kg and 5'8" my other kite board is a Firewire kite version Hellfire 5'6" with 24.5L
my plan is to keep the Vanguard 5'4" as my light wind board (12 to 17 knots) and replace the Hellfire with a bigger board but less volume for higher wind (20+ knots range) I'm thinking on a Tyrant 5'8" (22L). Both probably I would buy the Tyrant and keep the Hellfire because is a really nice board and is a bomb proof board.

The Vanguard 5'4" have basically the same volume of the Whip 25.9L vs 26L but in theory the
Vanguard would go early because is a MPH (Modern Planing Hull). I was thinking 5'2" or 5'4" and I order the 5'4" thinking more on the low wind benefits so probably you can go with the 5'6" if you plan is to use it as your low wind board.

The Vanguard have full rails so have almost the same volume on the rails than in the middle of the board.

I was really surprised with the weight of the board the first time I have it on my hands, is really light for a kite version board.
I'm going to weight the board with fins and pad installed because a forum member ask me about this........................

The wind forecast looks bad for the weekend but I would try to surf the Vanguard, of course with a rashguard!

I use the WCT medium fins on some of my surfboards and I like them a lot.
For my weight the WCT is one of the "recommended" fins for the vanguard but
I'm going to try it also with the Mulcoy fins.
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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Manuel V » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:41 pm

Manuel V wrote:
I'm going to weight the board with fins and pad installed because a forum member ask me about this........................



The weight of the board is between 9.0 or 9.2 lbs = 4.08 or 4.17 kg
with full pad and WCT fins.

Manuel

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Rbgar » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:11 pm

I would think on board with that wide of a tail it would only really work as quad, equal sized quad at that? I do like the NSI pad, how do the inserts feel strapless?

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby NorCalNomad » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:35 pm

Nope, rips as a thruster as well. Honestly most of your preconceived notions about a surfboard need to be thrown out when talking about a vanguard.

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Coloradokiter » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:18 am

totally agree with NorCal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby topmick » Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:33 am

Hey Manuel, can you let me know how you find the 5'4 as far as size goes. I,m same size as you & tossing up getting the 5'4 or 5'2.

Your board looks great :thumb:

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Simair » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:43 pm

Hi Manuel,

Thanks for the info!!

Actually i would keep my whip 5'8 as low wind board (12-17 knots) and would use the vanguard for medium wind 18-26 knots.
So it hink 5'4 would do the trick...

But i hope my local kiteshop will have them soon for some testing.

Keep us posted how it goes! :thumb:

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Manuel V » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:02 pm

topmick,

For my area Wind forecast is terrible for this weekend.

But waves forecast looks fun, I have plan to surf the Vanguard. :thumb:

About the decision on 5'2" or 5'4" I went for the 5'4" because I live on a place with not high winds (15 to 22 knots average) please read what Felixp answer to another kiteforum member:

felixp wrote:You can go either way. If you are riding in a windy location go for the 5'2 if you are riding in more light air go for the 5'4 you will be riding more waves than any one.

Hope you get to enjoy the Firewire Vanguard.

Felix


But if I feel the 5'4" floats to much for my weight
I would sale it and would buy the 5'2" version.

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby KiteTooMuch » Tue May 27, 2014 1:55 pm

I just received my 5'2" Vanguard last week and got my first ride on it this weekend. For reference, I am 180 lb and 5'10".

I got it out in 15 mph winds with a 12m kite and small 1-2 foot swell. The board was plenty big enough for me to kite and I would not want anything larger. The amazing thing about the board is how quick it is to plane - one pump of the legs and you are off to the races. I can't wait to get this board out in some nice size waves.

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Re: FireWire vanguard ?

Postby Slappysan » Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:40 am

Looks like Naish has a Vanguard copy coming out too now, you can see it in the video for their new kite the Pivot.

So that's:
- slingshot
- LF
- Naish

any others?


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