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Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:16 pm
by UKSurf
Oldnbroken wrote:[quote="UKSurf" "SupaEz"]The accuracy of the claims surround the Epic brand are highly questionable in my opinion. If you really want to get out in light winds you should consider getting a Sector directional board, with a large 16m+ high aspect kite (like a Dyno, Crossbow).
I beg to differ.

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I think the fact you have a dog on your profile picture is a perfect avatar for you - you have certainly demonstrated a willingness to follow mindlessly.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:27 pm
by L0KI
Like I said....get over it girls. :cry:

My current quiver contains four brands of kites and seven brands of boards.
Blindly follow? ...not so much.
And canines (domestic or non) only follow a strong leader, they stay safe and healthy that way.
What I don't do, is buy kites based only on cost, can you say the same? :no1:

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:53 pm
by Westozzy
sijandy wrote:
Westozzy wrote:Spot on above, great advice.

Remember the power of the wind at 20 knots is 4 times less than at 10 knots although you have only double the wind speed.
...would probably avoid this guys advice!

Yep got those around the wrong way! But around the right way this is accurate. Now you may consider my advice. Lol.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:01 am
by Peter_Frank
Hawaiis wrote:Of all the boards that I have tried, the ultimate light wind board ranking is
Hydrofoil board
Race board
Sup
Surfboard
Twintip
Finless Skimboard

So my conclusion is the big kite needs a big fin to counter the force.
It is the size of the fin, not size of the board that matters.
I dont think so....

IMO the light wind ranking is typically:

Hydrofoil board
Race board
Freerace board / Skimboard / SUP all about the same regarding light wind ability
Wide flatrockered surfboard
Surfboard / bigger Twintip
Twintip
Finless Skimboard ??? I think it is more a question about conditions and how experienced you are, as fins or no fins should make no difference at all, if you have good skills and smooth water.

I think you are talkning about round or elliptical "beach" skimboards without fins ?
Right, they are not that efficient.... But if you take, say a North Skimfish - then it will be able to go so early that you almost wont believe it !
I've tried these, and I've raced against these so to speak, in light wind with a freerace board.

So it is NOT all about fins IMO, but rockerline, volume, surface, edges - means much more than fin size regarding "light wind" ability.
Fin size is important regarding upwind angle and efficiency on raceboards, but apart from that not important IMO.

:D Peter

PS: Light wind ability and upwind performance are two very different things.... And NOT mentioned in above list.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:06 am
by Hawaiis
Yes, the skimboard I am referring to is the one that you throw on the sand and ride into the shore breaks.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:28 am
by L0KI
My Skimboard is a basic foam and glass skimboard that people use to ride into shore break.
Mine is the old basic white top and bottom, and I took off the one tiny fin it had on it.
53" L X 21" W X 3/4" Thick and about a 1/2" of rocker in the nose.
Goes out early and goes way the hell upwind.
The Naish Alaia surprised me and was as good or better upwind, but not sure it goes out as light.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:30 am
by Slappysan
Oldnbroken wrote:My Skimboard is a basic foam and glass skimboard that people use to ride into shore break.
Not sure if you meant that the pic was of your skim but just to clarify the pic is of a wake surfer, not a beach skim. Wake surfers do quite well behind kites as they have to have to be wide with low rocker to make them surfable behind small boat wakes. I would imagine a beach skim to be even better for low wind though as it will have even less rocker.

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:38 am
by SupaEZ
UKSurf wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote:[quote="UKSurf" "SupaEz"]The accuracy of the claims surround the Epic brand are highly questionable in my opinion. If you really want to get out in light winds you should consider getting a Sector directional board, with a large 16m+ high aspect kite (like a Dyno, Crossbow).
I beg to differ.

Blah Blah Blah
I think the fact you have a dog on your profile picture is a perfect avatar for you - you have certainly demonstrated a willingness to "follow mindlessly".[/quote]

Oldnbk demonstrates an unwillingness to "blindlessly follow" :lol:

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:40 am
by SupaEZ
Oldnbroken wrote: Blindly follow? ...not so much.
:goodluck:

Re: a good kite for light wind?

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:20 am
by coleman
Not another lightwind pissing contest! The guy asked for a good lightwind kite. Ok let's see......

Zephyr
Core 17/19
Dyno
Edge
Flight
Fat lady
Big mama
Board riding Maui cloud
Infinity

They all work well. None of those kites listed are bad. They are all really great and depends on what you want and how you ride. Higher aspect will turn slow but fly fast. Low aspect is kind of the opposite. Jumping performance is hardly an issue given the light wind. They all jump fine if you can make them.

Let's not take this opportunity to bash brands (ahem Supa and his boner for epic)

Confucious say: if one want piss contest, best to pick high wind. Piss fly further.