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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:21 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:45 pm 
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You know Toby, anyone who’s been around for a while realizes that stuff gets censored when the censor, or the censor’s buddies’, realize that THEY ARE WRONG and just don’t want to admit it.

I’ll bet lots of the readers here have been around for a while.

That said, you deleted my post which I was expecting to get at least some kind of answer to.

I highlighted a sentence in Taut’s post where he said words to the effect that kiters wanted to use the pond in easterly (apparently offshore winds) because they could then make a b-line through the opening and into the pond and thereby avoid the possibility of having their kite drop which apparently is likely if they come in elsewhere.q

I want to know what facts I’m not seeing here. There must be some because what I see makes no sense whatsoever. From what I can gather, this entire massive, very unproductive battle seems to be caused by EXPERIENCED kiters, in the most ? world famous spot, blessed with beautiful, clear warm water but WHO DON’T WANT TO GET WET ? OR CAN’T SELF RESCUE for a couple hundred feet?

If they can kite into the pond, why can’t they kite to whichever side of the pond the wind direction makes convenient, and put their kites down in the water a couple hundred feet out and swim in? Is it shark infested? What’s the problem, how long will it take for their kites to dry, it’s warm and windy isn’t it? Are they so feeble and decrepit that POSSIBLY walking a little further than they’d like is going to cripple them? "If you try to come in downwind to the pond, your kite will fall in the water, and then you have to swim to shore or walk up on the beach from very far down with all your gear. . . . It's really difficult."

Likewise, if it is offshore, it should be possible to drift launch by swimming out past the swim area (actually the wind should push the kiter out so swimming isn't much of a problem). From the Google photos it looks as if it would be possible to swim out on either side of the pond and avoid it entirely for launching. Of course, this means they’d get WET.

I don’t think that it’s really too unreasonable to expect that kiters who want to go out with a less than ideal wind direction, which supposedly doesn’t happen all that often, should learn the basic and MINIMAL skills necessary to deal with their WEATHER DEPENDENT sport.

I REALLY hope there’s a LOT more to this situation and that it hasn’t been caused by a few selfish kiters that are so arrogant and incompetent that rather than cope with a slightly tricky part of THEIR SPORT, that they want to solve THEIR problem of being somewhat inconvenienced, by taking away the NON-KITERS’ legal and reasonable entitlement to a kiterless pond, despite that doing so effectively ruins most of the benefit the non-kiters get from the spot.

I mean, talk about BAD PR. Please tell me there are sharks, sea monsters, something.

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lot's o' luck with this one Richard...

how about, no one wants to get their kite wet...

I can see that, crap, getting your butt dry in banana land is something only to be wished for...

pass the cornstarch, and damp is what comfy used to be...

been there done that

dry is a very important thing...

more important than any bee in your sand swami bonnet.

that's a fact dude....that's a fact
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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:23 pm 
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fokiten wrote:
lot's o' luck with this one Richard...

how about, no one wants to get their kite wet...

I can see that, crap, getting your butt dry in banana land is something only to be wished for...

pass the cornstarch, and damp is what comfy used to be...

been there done that

dry is a very important thing...

more important than any bee in your sand swami bonnet.

that's a fact dude....that's a fact
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fo
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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:41 pm 
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can't help you...

you obviously don't know the value of dry in the tropics...


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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:01 pm 
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No, not familiar with the daily challenges associated with living in the tropics.
But I'm fairly confident that has little to do with the Maui Kitebeach Issue that Malibu Dick is going off about.
Your reply to Dick was cryptic at best.
I asked wtf you were talking about.
Clear?


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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:10 pm 
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ha,

you're on your own here....

I think it's clear enough...

if nope is one's explanation , then yup serves quite well as the rebuttal..

is there something on your mind? besides confusion? and insistence?

this thread is dead anyway....so no harm done.

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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:32 pm 
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I hate it when my kite gets wet !


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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:58 pm 
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Oldnbroken wrote:
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No, not familiar with the daily challenges associated with living in the tropics.
But I'm fairly confident that has little to do with the Maui Kitebeach Issue that Malibu Dick is going off about.
Your reply to Dick was cryptic at best.
I asked wtf you were talking about.
Clear?


Cryptic is the driving force behind our quest to realize our true selves, in a world of water, some 75% wet---- dry has a value unknown to some, such is the case here...

You should get out more---wink

I think you're just trying to showcase a surly nature, which is pure sport to one like me...

I'm killing time, waiting for an engagement tonight...

Please do, carry-on
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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:52 pm 
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haven't been on kiteforum for a couple of weeks and missed the the deleted posts. I am going to Maui the end of July. Are there access issues at kite beach?


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 Post subject: Re: Maui Kitebeach Issue
PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:18 pm 
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Yes, someone complaint about kitesurfers in the designated swimmer's zone.

You still can kite, but do ask locals before what you can do and what not, and it will be fine.


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