Can anyone tell me if the element2 can be flown on the epic 3G bar, and what mods I need? I did a test flight on the element2 7 meter and found the back lines way too short. No deposed and it backstalled. Anyone have thoughts? I assume that I could take about 20-30 cm out of the front lines
KiteCulture wrote:Can anyone tell me if the element2 can be flown on the epic 3G bar, and what mods I need? I did a test flight on the element2 7 meter and found the back lines way too short. No deposed and it backstalled. Anyone have thoughts? I assume that I could take about 20-30 cm out of the front lines
As far as I know all lines equall should work with all switch kites, which is the same (as you know) as the epic kites. I have had a different experience with the element where the back lines were to long but that was using the switch bar... I would check your line lengths and if they are reasonably even then I would be checking the bridal lengths and rear line leaders on the kite against what they are suppose to be (bill Hansen can help you with that). If that all checks out contact switch since anything beyond that should be supported by them. Buying a another bar should not be required as the throw on switch kites and epic kites is not that far off.
KiteCulture wrote:I've got my cart all full....no worries there. Just another paycheque to go. Just looking to get out in a pinch.
Both of you stop it already, we all know there is no secret to what bar you use especially in this case.... Provided it's properly tuned...I could see how it might make a difference if you were using a pre 2014 cab bar or f-one bar. But these two bars and almost all other "modern" bars should work perfectly fine. I'll even prove it by bringing my two bars... A 2014 cab bar, and a hybrid naish bar to the tuning/ testing. Both are perfectly tuned and ready for action on 99% of post 2009 kites.
I always prefer to fly the same brand bar and kite... Just a preference as I know then its just a rig and ride scenario with no adjustments needed.... At least in my experience. And I'm just sadly in a financial position where I've had to hold off a little. The element2 flew ok on the pic bar, and it appeared that all line lengths were equall, but it was sensitive to back line pressure. No worries, I'll get it all sorted soon. My only new dilemma will be to get the red or black element2 with the new bar.
the split point is real interesting in kites today the way if changes the way kites fly. I have had a torch, vegas and switch bar on combats - all work - but a high split (eg torch bar) needs 5th line with tension in larger sizes to stop flaring. The torch has been designed with its shape to only use it's high split for the best results - it sux a bit on 5th split from low - not as good. When the kite flips inside one side of the split i get annoyed lol! although a good piece of advice here was to dig your ass in teh water rather than ride out a failed trick hands in the air.. - reduces chance of a flip...
Laughingman wrote:(bill Hansen can help you with that).
All Switch kites are conservatively tuned to just barely back a meter or so when fully sheeted with trim 100% released in steady light to moderate wind on a calibrated bar = all lines equal when trim is 100% released and bar 100% sheeted to CL. Some users prefer to shorten or lengthen the rear lines to suit their individual tastes or bar set-up. Before testing a Switch kite on any bar, one must first determine that the calibration is correct. Otherwise the flight test is a useless waste of time. For safety, when we test new protos and samples we always hold the kite drawing wind on the side of the window with some trim pulled and insure that the kite is not oversheeted or pulling asymmetrically and the rear lines go slack when the bar is sheeted out, etc.
If you have a problem with any Switch kite you can contact the support system in several convenient ways to quickly resolve it and also go on the Switch forum for further advice and answers from actual users. Switch sells complete bridle sets and components like pigtails, transfer lines, pulleys and sliders for all kites here: http://switchkites.com/parts/kite/bridles.html I've attached the Element2 production loft bridle specs following. Care must be taken in measuring bridles as assembled lengths are often much different than the raw-length loop-to-loop dimensions.
Regarding the colors, I think the Red one looks nice!
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