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Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

Laughingman wrote:

Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

I did leave that out... I/we have been looking for a new quiver for years. I test drove several kites. None of them offered much of an upgrade from what I already had right up until you put these kites in our hands with the new bar prototype. SOLD! Performance, ease of use and safety. That's all I wanted... The EPIC 4G Renegades checked all the boxes.

KYLakeKiter wrote:

Laughingman wrote:

Dimitri M wrote:Thank you Laughingman for your inputs on the new 4G kites you just got. I guess all you had to do was try them and as always, the kites talk for themselves.

Now concerning the (5) meter extension lines for the RENEGADE 13 LTD. It is a great idea but most of the people don't like extension lines because sometimes the lines get stuck together when you relaunch the kites because of the connections. They like to fly the kite on 22 meter lines or use the 15 meters for teaching or for surfing. But they can always buy on our ONLINE STORE or any of our Epic dealers and extra set of (5 meter) extension lines.
The only kite that has an extra set of (5 meter) extension lines instead of the (15 meter) lines is the INFINITY kite. But your inputs are taken into consideration and maybe for the next (5G) kites the RENEGADE 13 LTD will come with an extra set of (5 m) lines instead of (20 m) lines.

This is the RENEGADE 13 LTD (4G) in action in Rhodos "Greece".

I did leave that out... I/we have been looking for a new quiver for years. I test drove several kites. None of them offered much of an upgrade from what I already had right up until you put these kites in our hands with the new bar prototype. SOLD! Performance, ease of use and safety. That's all I wanted... The EPIC 4G Renegades checked all the boxes.

So you got to test the 4G kites with the new bar as well?

KYLakeKiter wrote: OK, thanks. I got to try one of the prototypes in December and liked the way the CL was set up. I was just wondering if the production bar was out and about yet. I think this will be one of the most appreciated improvements to the 4G lineup.

Oldnbroken wrote:Will wait to hear your results.
Bridled C kites seem to be just right for me these days, they keep most of the nice feel of a C kite, but with the easy things that the better sle/delta kites do.