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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:17 am 
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Third clamcleat in one year, I clean off the sand every time, but it only last 4 months. The material on the clamcleat is probably aluminum or pot metal.


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:10 pm 
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Amazing :o

What type of line is in the cleats, do you have a close up picture Hawaiis ?

I dunno - but that seems to be the only major difference (to other clam cleat users) left :wink:

Apart from the specific cleat not being the same, and not as strong of course.

My cleats (same type as yours, standard on Takoon bars) lasts for at least the 3-4 years (150 to 200 sessions per year, distributed on 2 bars most often), untill I typically ditch the bar and get a new one, so I dont know WHEN the cleat will be worn, as I've never tried it since back when discovering what was wrong (as I did not rinse the sand off at first, but have done it ever since).

8) Peter


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:11 pm 
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Strange, I have clam cleat on my Core Sensor bar and I never rinse it or do whatever to the line and I never had a single problem. Maybe you should try an other model and change also the line.

Edit: just saw Peter's post, looks like you guys have the same clam cleat and he never got any problem!? But me, I would replace it anyway with an other model if I could. Hate to replace the same part for abnormal wear down.


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:49 pm 
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Séb wrote:
Strange, I have clam cleat on my Core Sensor bar and I never rinse it or do whatever to the line and I never had a single problem. Maybe you should try an other model and change also the line.


Seb is correct
I ride XR3 19m over 70 days in ocean salt /sand since i got it...zero rinse....zero slip

There is a simple reason for that and it is that it is a 4 to 1 ratio trim line

There is half the force exerted on the teeth of the cleat from the rope

Most other systems are 2 to 1 ratio....so the line pulls much harder in the cleat

Quicker line and teeth wear happens also faster if you have only one bar for 3 kites as an example

The thing with 4 to1 is that you have to pull 21 inches of rope to produce 5.25 inches of depower

Core has a nice long velcro on trim line and cleat to keep the long amount of line securely attached


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:33 pm 
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Well, technically speaking - it's wise to rinse any bar upon entering into water regardless of the trimmer's type. Sand is a very peculiar beast and it's best to keep it out of your gear - period. That being said, don't forget that no sand is the same, so the amount of wear on one's clamcleat might depend on both sand's fineness and the type of cord used.


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Well, technically speaking - it's wise to rinse any bar upon entering into water regardless of the trimmer's type. Sand is a very peculiar beast and it's best to keep it out of your gear - period. That being said, don't forget that no sand is the same, so the amount of wear on one's clamcleat might depend on both sand's fineness and the type of cord used.


Well said :thumb:

8) PF


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:12 am 
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Pretty sure clam cleats are made of anodized aluminum. Very hard surface outer surface but as soon as sand wears it at all it will rapidly wear to nothing.
Good recommendation yo rinse every time & i will from now ono


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great post. thanks for sharing.
could the teeth be filed sharper?


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:28 pm 
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Best tip is to never put the bar/ cleat on / in the sand at all

Especially true after session when all is wet

Put your bar on kite canopy or on your board when you are done

No rinsing ever needed....and i kite at beach with all types of sand textures..... @ 200 ++ days a year

My 2 cents :D


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 Post subject: Re: Any tips on slipping clamcleat?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:51 pm 
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Hawaiis wrote:
Third clamcleat in one year, I clean off the sand every time, but it only last 4 months. The material on the clamcleat is probably aluminum or pot metal.

it says aluminium on clamcleats web site, but i think it is some Al+Zn, Al+Si or something in between alloy for better casting.

besides the water salinity is the potent factor for corrosion too. may be Peter Frank has less salt in the water he is riding?


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