Dan-at-North wrote:As this shape is new to us I have very little feedback from consumers, but a few of us have been riding a quiver of Dice pretty regularly around here and I feel we know it pretty well. First of all, as to your direct question about power, I feel pretty confident saying that the Dice has less grunt than the 2012 Evo. However, it is also quicker turning than the Evo, allowing you to sine the kite to get power. At the same time, the Dice seems to have more high end than the Evo, so you probably have more range overall with the Dice than you're getting with your 2012 Evo. One guy in particular reported going to the coast with the Dice and was able to ride the 10 while others were on 12s and 14s from other brands, and then had no problem continuing to hold it down when others were switching to 7s. I've heard the same thing out of every pimp on this forum about one kite or another, but at least it's a sign that the range should be pretty decent. On the range of power the Evo is definitely our gruntiest kite, followed by the Fuse, then the Rebel, then the Vegas. I'd put the Dice between the Rebel and the Vegas.
Another significant difference is that the Dice is noticeably lighter on the bar than the 2012 Evo, and has great feedback (and this is with the Dice on the heavy bar pressure setting. It was so nice we haven't even bothered switching to the light setting).
I can't guarantee anything, but going from a 2012 Evo to a 2014 Dice should be a noticeable step up. Though the general idea behind the kites is similar (they are both marketed as freestyle and wave along with being great all-around freeride kites), I'm betting that you will find the Dice will give you more range, be quicker turning, be more comfortable for freeride, and should work better for both wave riding and advanced freestyle.
Please note that these comparisons are for the 2012 Evo vs the 2014 Dice. The 2014 Evo is completely redesigned, hasn't been finished, won't be available for several months, and I have absolutely no feedback on it yet.
Hope this helps and let us know your thoughts on the Dice when you get it.
So much marketing bullshit.
So Dice has:
1) insane range, a 10m Dice can hold with 7m and 14m kites from other brands. That means 10-40knots wind range? Seriously... and according to the numerical values at your site, Dice has lower range then same size Evo, which already had lower range the rebels.
2) "noticeably lighter on the bar than the 2012 Evo"
Freestyle kite lighter (on the heaviest setting) on the bar then the Evo? How is that good for freestyle.
3) "Dice will give you more range, be quicker turning, be more comfortable for freeride, and should work better for both wave riding and advanced freestyle."
One is impossible together with the other, wtf. You can't market the kite as best on everything.
If you want to market the kite at least be honest, just saying a 10m kite can hold up with 7-14m of other brands is.......
I'm just gonna wait for more customer reviews, seems like you cant trust Norths marketing anymore.
It's same way as Evo was offered as wave/freesytle kite, when the freestyle part came down to doing raileys and maybe the most basic hps.