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Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby marlboroughman » Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:50 pm

I've been holding off with GoPro purchase hoping for something more practical for a long time. Finally I think this is it and it is a Pentax. Let me know what's wrong with it before I click buy button. :D

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468184,00.asp
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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby ivan-d » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:29 pm

Personally, I'd go for the GoPro (with the Hero4 coming out soon the Hero3 price should go down, or you might even check into the Hero4 Silver edition).

Here's my starting list of things to consider when comparing various cams when it comes to using them for kiting:
- Top resolution / frame rate
- Video quality (which is tied to various aspects of the camera, such as sensor type, sensor size, codec bitrate)
- Attachments
- Size / weight
- Battery life (and availability of 3rd party batteries, as these are usually significantly cheaper than the OEM's)
- Connectivity (WiFi)
- Built-in screen
- Built-in GPS
- Remote control
- Warranty service

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby marlboroughman » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:45 pm

Here are the specs

http://us.ricoh-imaging.com/digital-cam ... duct-specs

So it doesn't have remote. The universal line mount will work, I think.

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby ivan-d » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:19 pm

Going by my list of features to compare against, here's how I see it (comparing against Hero4 Silver @ $399 and Hero "plain" @ $130)

Video resolution / frame rate (frame rate being at least 30):
Pentax - 1080 @ 30
H4 Silver - 2.7K @ 30 (good for stabilization in editing / additional quality when downsampling to 1080), 1080 @ 60
Hero - 1080 @ 30

Video quality
Pentax -- can't say for sure, but they don't mention the bitrate anywhere at all or anything about the codec, so I assume it's OK, but not great
H4 Silver - pretty damn good; has a special ProTune mode to give you more latitude in post-processing (though this requires more video editing skills on the user's part); according to them, better low-light performance; may require a more expensive microSD card to support to higher bitrate
Hero - probably on the same level as the Pentax

Mounts
Pentax - whatever Pentax provides, which I suspect is not a whole lot; another option might be an adapter to GoPro mounts
H4 Silver & Hero -- tons

Size / weight / form factor
Pentax -- 6.7oz, kinda weird shape, depending upon how you plan to mount it / hold it
H4 Silver - 5.2oz, rectangular shape
Hero - 3.9oz, rectangular shape

Battery
Pentax -- 2.5 hour recording time, according to spec; dunno about replacement batteries
H4 Silver -- I hear around an hour per battery charge; plentiful supply of 3rd party batteries (once they get the hang of the new battery format in the Hero4)
Hero -- dunno

The rest you can source from the H4 and Hero specs here:
H4: http://shop.gopro.com/EMEA/cameras/hero ... Y-401.html
Hero: http://shop.gopro.com/EMEA/cameras/hero/CHDHA-301.html

My recommendation for going with a GoPro comes mainly because I'm a stickler for high video quality (subject to a given budget) and because of the popularity (and, thus, greater availability of 3rd party accessories) of their system.

P.S. A soon-to-be-old Hero3 or Hero3+ Black would also be a good option, if you can find it discounted and in new condition.

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby marlboroughman » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:57 pm

Thanks man. I am leaning toward Pentax. Looks like a camera that I can hang on my neck and walk around and use for all. It doesn't require extra waterproof housing, maybe better for the fogging issue. The battery life is superb, 2.5 hrs of recording is so much better than 1 hr. Image quality is obviously important but I don't have to have the absolute top, the practicality of it is more important to me. If I can hang it on the lines and mount it on my motorcycle handle bar that's all I need.

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby longbeachrider » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:08 pm

Go with the Hero... Better everything and probably the best feature is the high frame rate which allows great slow motion...

Here's an example of what can be accomplished... http://vimeo.com/76638196

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby ivan-d » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:23 pm

The vid says it was shot on a Sony FS700, a completely different animal.

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby marlboroughman » Sat Oct 11, 2014 11:40 pm

60 fps is great but if the thing works only for 1 hr and fogs up, it's no good to me. 30 fps is movie theater quality. I am no James Cameron shooting Avatar at 48 fps. :lol: It's good enough and most of all practical.

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Re: Ricoh-Pentax WG-M1

Postby marlboroughman » Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:25 pm

Got it. With this deal you are basically paying $100 for the camera.
http://www.amazon.com/Ricoh-Compact-Wat ... icoh+wh+m1

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