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What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby Durao » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:49 am

How mates... I useful to use a torch, however I am queen to try the new Fuel... even that it has 4 lines, does it relaunch easier? And if we compare it with Torch 5 lines? Thanks !!

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... FUEL X TORCH?

Postby BWD » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:25 am

cannot relaunch torch when it rolls through its five lines,
therefore fuel is the winner!
easy reverse launch, also relaunches to the side if you like...

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:55 am

yeah - new fuel any more depower?

torch easy and quick to relaunch - but that kite flip through the y bridle does my head in!!!


torch - more depower faster


any other decent new c kites this year?

not so interested in fuel style depower kite anymore in gusty conditions

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby PAFF » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:05 am

like the simple setup on 4 lines on the Fuel, but 2013-2014 the Torch is just a better kite, in any aspekt IMHO..

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... FUEL X TORCH?

Postby tautologies » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:21 am

BWD wrote:cannot relaunch torch when it rolls through its five lines,
therefore fuel is the winner!
easy reverse launch, also relaunches to the side if you like...


but it will be easier to relaunch a 5line kite in about 95% of the times you need to relaunch. It is just so efficient to pull a bit on the 5th and then back line...

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby powerpersonified » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:55 am

I have both fuels and torches. Kinda perfer the torch.

As far as the kite flipping, I put these
on the 5th line so the kite sits on it back on the fifth but the tips are still just slighty bent and the kite has never done it again
http://www.bestdealer.co.uk/index.php?m ... ts_id=1172

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:47 am

hmmmm, in real high winds i have had a stopper but the kite gets caught flying upside down flagged out with it very difficult to get back on the ground/water to flip and relaunch...

does the fuel not come with even a 5th line attachment now for 2014? - even andy yates pkra champ a couple of years ago used to use a 5th on fuels.

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby ralfiboy » Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:22 pm

Try the new hadlow pro, such a sick kite. 4/6 line setup, if you ride 4 its a hardcore c-kite. Add the two bridles and it depowers like a hybrid, and slacks like a C. Relaunch is easy either way. Feels like such a solid kite too.

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... Fuel x Torch?

Postby BWD » Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:43 pm

The fuels will rotate and relaunch by pulling on one steering line.
Fly up backwards if you pull on both steering lines.
Fly up the side of the window if you nurse it over there.
I go for the reverse relaunch 90% of the time...
If there is enough wind to ride, it works.
If there is only 5-8 knots, may have to wait for a gust, but you can't ride a fuel in that anyway.
Under 12 knots, 5 lines gives a slight advantage in being able to hot launch more easily off the TE if you get in that situation.
Personally, I currently prefer to not ride C kites under about 13 knots.

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Re: What´s has the better relaunch.... FUEL X TORCH?

Postby JGTR » Thu Oct 17, 2013 3:09 pm

BWD wrote:cannot relaunch torch when it rolls through its five lines,
therefore fuel is the winner!
easy reverse launch, also relaunches to the side if you like...


Us you can!! I've done it loads of times. Do you fly Torches then???? If you want I can teach you how to relaunch the Torch, it's very easy with a bit of practice :thumb:


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