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 Post subject: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:08 am 
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I would like to do a poll and also have a general feeling of people thoughts on someone trying to sell pre 2005 old C Kite?

It is extremely important that only people that have started kiteboarding since at least 2003 (or before) until now, and have experience the kite and boards evolution to answer this. If you learned 200-2005 and quit since then, please do not answer because you do not know how much gear as improve (or you haven't experienced it), same goes for the opposite, you do not know how much gear s### back then. (or haven't experienced it)

The poll is very easy, 3 questions only:

1: Would you, if you get your hand on a free old C kite, give it to a close relative (father, mother, sister, brother, daughter, son) to learn on? Yes or No

2: Would you, if you get your hand on a free old C kite, give it to a friend or distant relative to learn on? Yes or No

3: Would you, if you get your hand on a free old C kite, give it to a stranger to learn on? Yes or No

For me the answers are:

1: No
2: No
3: No

As for my thoughts, I ll try to do a resume in a proper English and more technical from some post on our local forum. Basically, the main reasons why I find that it is not "ok", or not cool at all to sell old C kite (pre 2005) are:
- Depower: (there wasn't much at all!!!)
- Safety Release: (Including kite behaviour/amount of power after safety release, ouch!!!)
- Bladder wont hold air for long (if they do) any more: Glue Bladder/Valve connection, after all these years...
- Relaunch: .................... Thanks to technology improvement!!!
- Safety Video/Advice on Forum: Lots of safety advice on forum or learning video are based on current technology, not the old technology. Let go the bar on an old C Kite...ouch, pull safety release for complete depower on a old C Kite... good luck with that
- Seeing people kiteboarding in gusty condition like it is nothing might push the poor beginner to think that it is ok for him/her to kite in these conditions with his old CKite...
- Boards: Going upwind on these old boards was/is soo much difficult, so much work, not enjoyable at all, especially for a beginner...
- Price: There are sooo many 2008-2010 kites at $150-$325 range, yes they are quite used but better than a brand new old C kite...

Anyhow, thanks for your thoughts and/or answers to the small poll, Ian


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:48 am 
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No
No
and No


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:23 am 
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1. Nope
2. Depends on how much I dislike the distant relative. :argue:
3. No

Not only do you have the issue of the limited safety and functionality of a pre-2005 kite, there is also the good possibility that the quality of the material is likely to be degraded as well.

I have to say that I really enjoy kiteboarding much more since 2008 and the adoption of the SLE or bow style kites.


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:27 am 
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YES to all for my closest enemys :naughty:


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:53 am 
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Depends.... 5 line?
How's it fly?
Slow and stable? or fast and deadly?

I learned on 2005 C kites and they were not scary in the slightest. Slow, stable 5 line and hard to get in trouble with. Would recommend that one to anyone I knew. for beating the crap out of while learning or snow kiting. .


4 line no way.


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:04 am 
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i slice mine up before i put them in the bin.

a friend once sold an older c kite to a dude (i found out later) - i saw something out the corner of my eye flying through the air super fast, it started raining hard i wnet o check up on a hunch - i found him with his head split open unable to move ankle size of a balloon (broke a fence)! - hospital 2 days - flew 30-40 m through fence headfirst into park.


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:07 am 
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Stranger no(i'd sell it ha), but friend maybe, depends on the personallity and wether i thought they could handle it. Not always a negative learning on older gear, can help establish a greater respect for the wind which can lead to a more competent kiter further down the line.


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:28 am 
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I´m a relatively new kiter and learn in modern gear, on the questions - No, No, No



in any case was given a ~2002 / 2003 (?) fuel and finnaly had the oppurtunity to play with it a bit this last week-end

initial impression is that it works in a smaller AOA range than modern gear, it is less stable and asks for a more active pilot. But in any case still need to trim the kite better

On the de-power front it was clear it does not as much as modern gear. As i was with a skim edging was not so easy, but think in a TT would handle it without much issues

Still need to get more time in the water before having a stronger oppinion, for sure there are differences but honestly didn´t seem to be such a big deal

PS - did use a modern bar


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:00 am 
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Big old C are Ok 12 and + for studdy wind or Tropical location ( dry season only :D ).


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 Post subject: Re: Need your thoughts on selling pre ~2005 C kite please.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:15 am 
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Small early Cs make great high wind kites, super stable, responsive, good feedback and you can edge out gusts very easy, I was using a 2004 Airush 6m up until recently as my high wind kite


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