It took sometime to perfect but I think Dimitri has a winner here.
Pete, you should seriously go out of the Epic bubble more often and see other brand's ...[\quote]
I have over the past 5 years tested everything I could get my hands on, I have only started to fly Epic kites this year. So not in a bubble, but tested lots, and the renegades 4g were the right kites for my wife and I.
If I was to get a new bar to use with Epics - I'd seriously give the new Switch Controller II a shot: http://switchkites.com/controller2.html
The switch bar is much improved but they did not change 1. The bar is solid aluminum so if weight is an issue you may want to reconsider your choice. 2. Try and reassemble that loop .... It took me a few tries even on land and the bungie pinched me twice while trying. 3. Safety system from end of the loop to the end of the swivel is about an inch longer which means you have to reach further to trim your kite.
Now Pete, what's up with the chicken loop fetish? Seriously? Do you actually get pleasure from yanking your primary safety on a daily basis? It surely looks so from all that 4-g-chicken-loop pimping you're making for mr.D. I won't speak for others, but me - personally - i ride because I like other things than fiddling with the safety... B.t.w. Naish's chicken loop - IMHO - is still the simplest and most compact i've seen to date. I know that it works, I give it a wash from time to time and that's where any thoughts about it end for me. Don't see any reasons to be running around the forum and pimping it though..
1. My wife is not comfortable with a below the bar depower.
2. I think it is wise to pull your safety and reassemble it every time you go out.
3. I have nothing to gain by expressing my likes or dislikes of any brand so I am only informing, not pimping... Or hating as it is in your case.
Why don't you learn to be a bit more positive and embrace what you like rather then spend so much energy on being negative... Why should you care about what I like or don't like... I certainly don't give a shit about what you think.... After all that I have seen you post it is hard to even consider you want me to actually answer you.
So unless you want to have a constructive conversation please refrain from addressing me directly as I find you to be a very distasteful type of person.
And I was replying to balagh.... Not you... Clear enough?