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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby TomW » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:49 pm

The Nitro 1, Element 1 and Method 1 were pretty poor kites.
High bar pressure, tendency to over fly and hindenburg, poor or non existing steering at high depower. OK, they were cheap.
But zero resale value.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby naishdude » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:36 am

@ Tom,
you are right on these two kites, also the first Element was not that great, but each time they came up with the upgrade model , they improved it, which is not alwatys the case with other brands.

Pity for the Method, if they could have made a Method V3 with less bar and needed input pressure I would still be on it,

After Method V2 I skipped E2/3 and got on Element V4 the best kite then, and the only difference compared to an OZONE REO V3 was more barpressure and frotline pressure...but much more less than a Method V2, for me the E V4 was the best kite they produced, never got my hands on the V5.

Now the V6 has nothig to do with the previous Element Bill Hanson design line, no matter how hard Felix is trying to sell it..

cheers dude :cool2:

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:38 am

In 2006, there was only one good kite on the market, Ozone Instinct and only up to 11m. The rest of them were total crap. Today, I would not touch them with the stick.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby Faxie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:28 am

TomW wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:49 pm
The Nitro 1, Element 1 and Method 1 were pretty poor kites.
High bar pressure, tendency to over fly and hindenburg, poor or non existing steering at high depower. OK, they were cheap.
But zero resale value.
Element1 had very low bar pressure. Too low for my taste in the end. Other than that, it was better in most other aspects compared to my A+ Fone Bandit. That one didn't turn that well depowered too.

Why would I care about resale? I flew it for 2 years I think, and lost less money than I've would with a 2 yr old Cabrinha for example. The relative loss is about the same, absolute loss is less. Biggest problem is that they're less popular. But all smaller brands are.

Haven't flown the Nitro 1, but had a small time on the Method 1. Bar pressure was high, but not that big of a deal imo. Wasn't that much different from my Bandit.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby TomW » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:17 pm

Just saying that from my perspective, they let those kites out the door and it was pretty obvious they were not ready. so I'm very sceptical to buying anything that's ' new' from Switch.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby Faxie » Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:46 pm

TomW wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:17 pm
Just saying that from my perspective, they let those kites out the door and it was pretty obvious they were not ready. so I'm very sceptical to buying anything that's ' new' from Switch.
Bit strange a lot of people were raving mad about those kites when they were still Eclipse models... the problem with the first batch of Switch kites was that they were an acquired taste for a big part and a bit heavy, comparably to LF kites. Method wasn't your average wavekite, and Nitro wasn't your average freerider. Combat was a pretty good C-kite, but it had wingtip battens, so again not for everybody.

I myself am very skeptical for the hundreth new model from most manufacturers. Haven't flown a single one that blew me away.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby marlboroughman » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:42 pm

TomW wrote:
Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:49 pm
zero resale value
Buy Nitro6 now, and when they quit making them it will become instant classic. The best kite investment you will ever make. :thumb:

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby felixp » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:27 pm

Everyone to their own.
People comparing kites from 6 years ago to a new model that just came out. Really. Its like comparing a car from 6 years ago.
Maybe it time to go out on a limb and give the E6 a go. Judging a book by it cover..... You never know just might be something you really Enjoy.
Videos and reviews should start coming out as buyers will be receiving the first shipments any day.
Its as simple as that.
Regards
Felix.

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby Matteo V » Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:20 pm

felixp wrote:
Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:27 pm
People comparing kites from 6 years ago to a new model that just came out. Really.......
It is cool when the guy in charge posts on this forum!

With the changes at Switch, what direction do you see your designs going? Is it going to be a "hit or miss" totally new feel every version, or are you intent on nailing the feel and just tweaking slightly so someone who has been flying the last version can sell their kite as soon as the new one is being shipped to them? Slingshot has done the latter for a while and their riders appreciate it!

How about parts availability? Switch had a decent bar system with only one issue - and thankfully that was not on the CL QR device. When we will see parts availability for the new bar on the Switch website?

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Re: Are Switch kites getting any better?

Postby Bill C » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:21 am

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How about parts availability? Switch had a decent bar system with only one issue - and thankfully that was not on the CL QR device. When we will see parts availability for the new bar on the Switch website?
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I bought the new C4 bar several months ago and its a good bar. Spare parts can be found under the Spare Parts/Kite Bar Parts/Controller 4 section on their website. http://switchkites.com/


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