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Exactly, that's illegal that's NO NOmadworld wrote:There fault, but flying your kite on the beach hanging out is not welcome at my local sailing site.
So was North doing a demo or was TKS doing the demo? Who owned the kite and who was in care and control of the kite? Who stood to gain financially from having the demo?fabiustex wrote: the TKS Miami store showed up for the North Kiteboarding Demo.
You should pay for it. Just because you chatted for a few minutes you are guilty of yapping.fabiustex wrote:I want to share a bad experience (very bad) occurred Friday December 13th in Miami Beach at 23rd Street so to collect some opinions and hopefully warn whoever will find himself in similar situations.
We arrived at the spot early in morning and had few good session in North Est winds; in the afternoon and after a break lasted 4 hours for unfavorable conditions the wind picked up again and the TKS Miami store showed up for the North Kiteboarding Demo. I went out with my kite for a session and then back on the beach to change board when I spent few minutes chatting with a friend keeping the kite at 12...then the incident, long story short the representative for TKS trying to pass a kite between one kiter to another (and without wearing harness so without safeleash...this should be safety rule #1!!!) loose control of the Kite which flew on my lines causing the kite to loop, crash on a fence and tearing the canopy from LE to TE. As soon we got the situation under control, we've approached the TKS representative asking for explanation and the only answer we've got was "I'm not responsible, I was not even wearing a harness" (well, that could have helped!!), one of the kiters involved even tried to run way. No one asked if we were injured or everything was ok; after arguing for several minutes without having any other option we packed and left. Now what we should have done?Is TKS store responsible for his representative?
What would you have done?
Just to clarify...there were 4 kiters around me preparing their gear to go out: everyone agreed with what I have reported; the TKS rep was not even able to describe what happened (he didn't want to!).vp wrote:he said, she said.. two sides to every story like this.
hanging around on the beach with your kite at 12 is asking for trouble. "Keep it low, and go!" - one of the most important kiteboarding rules.fabiustex wrote: I spent few minutes chatting with a friend keeping the kite at 12..
I guess it was a North Demo hosted by TKS, their tent was on the beach and their representative was helping the kiters to lunch and land the demo gear.Laughingman wrote:So was North doing a demo or was TKS doing the demo? Who owned the kite and who was in care and control of the kite? Who stood to gain financially from having the demo?fabiustex wrote: the TKS Miami store showed up for the North Kiteboarding Demo.
If there was a private company using public land as a sales venue then that private company is responsible for anything that their representatives do imho. No different then if this was a lesson for example.
Sounds like TKS or North should buck up here.... I always here "support your local shop" so now is the time for that shop to support the community that is keeping them in business The same community that shares the access which that shop likely uses for lessons and demos etc...
There are laws against that in a lot of places.