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Has anyone regretted buying something in 2013?
I regretted buying the mystic wave harness, for me this product has to be out of the market, it doesn't work properly and it is really dangerous to the ribs. The belt velcro opens all the time and the harness goes up to the thorax. Really , really dangerous.
The Fuse 18 is another product that is useless for me, I can ride better my rebel 14 at the same conditions the 18 starts to work, and in ultra light wind ( 6/ 10 knots) I still need to use my SP3 21.
Mystic and North are two very good brands and i l buy most of theirs products, but in this two cases I really regretted buying.

yep. I got a 2013 ozone c4. Absolutely hated it. hated it.

I loved the 2011 C4. I glorious kite to behold. So I purchased the 2013 based on my experience with the 2011.

Man I was guttered. My style is freeride, boosting and riding waves. The 2011 was awesome fast turning dynamic kite that worked really well for my style.

The 2013 is dedicated wakestyle. Heavy bar pressure, slow turning hooking in. its now a horrible freeride kite.

@ plummet, is the 2013, C4 really that bad, I was thinking about getting a 9m, I also had the 2011, 10m and loved it... how much heavier is the bar pressure in 2013...

My SlingShot Whip (wakeboard) I wore thru the base in the first 2 months of riding at the cable park. I replaced my Reflex I broke which had a better base. I grabbed a whip because it was their cable specific board.

boyceduke wrote:@ plummet, is the 2013, C4 really that bad, I was thinking about getting a 9m, I also had the 2011, 10m and loved it... how much heavier is the bar pressure in 2013...

Its not a bad kite if you are doing unhooked wakestyle. For that purpose, which lets face it is its intended purpose, it is awesome.

But when you hook in and bar out the lines are unbelievably slack and the turning is muted considerably when hooked in.

The bar pressure is at least double. I have a stuffed wrist and elbow. The bar pressure was way to high for me. I also fly one handed a lot. One handed flying with was uncomfortable.. As was one handed jumping.

If you want to freeride hooked in and don't like high bar pressure then the 2013 c4 is not for you. I managed to swap my 2013 for a 2012 c4. Its more like the 2011 model.

I'm still on the hunt for a replacement kite for my 10m size. best one I've tried so far is the North Dice.

MHL lift

naish torch 12........ shitty kite. Decided to give Naish a chance again after buying a V-4 kite back in the day. The V-4 sucked, and so does the torch. No more Naish for me!

Hawaiis wrote:MHL lift

Could you please explain why?

Thanks

bigwave wrote:

Hawaiis wrote:MHL lift

Could you please explain why?

Thanks

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very poor workmanship.

Man I love my 2013 c4's! Its all a matter of preference cause a lot of people didn't like the 2011 c4. I had to shorten my steering lines under the floats before I fell in love with the 2013.