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Kamikuza wrote:

OceanAdventures wrote:[Core 19m being one exception

That good, is it? Shame I'm so iffy on the bar

It just doesn't pull as much as you would think a 19m should. It pulls like a 17m but has some decent speed for a kite it's size.

This is the reason why I am willing to send my demos world wide so people can demo the kites and find out what they are all about. I do believe in Shops but again the reason we are very strict with our shops/Dealers is because we want the best of the best to represent our brand.

OceanAdventures wrote:

Kamikuza wrote:

OceanAdventures wrote:[Core 19m being one exception

That good, is it? Shame I'm so iffy on the bar

It just doesn't pull as much as you would think a 19m should. It pulls like a 17m but has some decent speed for a kite it's size.

Then a faster 17 would be better?

It just doesn't pull as much as you would think a 19m should. It pulls like a 17m but has some decent speed for a kite it's size.[/quote]
Then a faster 17 would be better?[/quote]

What we have found through testing is that with the big kites, the faster they are the less low end they usually have. Bigger bars are starting to bring the average speeds up, but this is still evident. Turbine slow and powerful, zephyr is faster with less low end.

The core is a faster kite than most, but the extra 2m of sale makes it average out, but we still feel like other kites have more low end, but we are nit picking... Well because that's what we do...

The one exception we have seen and are stoked on is the new OR Flite 2. This kite has very nice speed and pulls just as good if not more than the 2013 turbine (haven't gotten on the 14 yet). Bar pressure is amazingly light also.

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Dude

That's a Great idea
except
there's people that could take advantage of Ya, & get a new kite for there
vacation, then return it so there Visa card balance stays low.

If i were you, and a guy wanted the Full money back, then he'd need to
pay for the Rental price for that month ; but an exchange for a different
model would still be Free.

THIS MIGHT WORK :
We need a company that's willing to RENT a Used kite to there buyer
to try ; shipping around the world, is Not that bad now, for something
as small as a kite & bar & pump, and shipping charges would be acceptable
to people that end up Not-Liking that particular kite.

You could actually have a rental kite shipped to your vacation destination ; but
i'd wanna know for Sure it had NO leaks if my vacation depended on it !

Bille

16 17m kites ?
Where are you living ? On the equator where there is hardly any wind ?

Half the size would do even in light winds (15knots) or am I missing something ?
When it is less than 15 knots: then go SUP or go paragliding

peterheirman wrote:16 17m kites ?
Where are you living ? On the equator where there is hardly any wind ?

Half the size would do even in light winds (15knots) or am I missing something ?
When it is less than 15 knots: then go SUP or go paragliding

It's called the gulf coast of Florida. Didn't realize it was a secret.... 15 knots here were calling in sick to work. That has been the problem for a long time, companies developed kite for places like Maui that don't have light wind, and kind of ignored it for years.

Trust me there are way more light wind riders than any other... Everyplace as light wind at some time!

THIS MIGHT WORK :
We need a company that's willing to RENT a Used kite to there buyer
to try ; shipping around the world, is Not that bad now, for something
as small as a kite & bar & pump, and shipping charges would be acceptable
to people that end up Not-Liking that particular kite.
You could actually have a rental kite shipped to your vacation destination ; but
i'd wanna know for Sure it had NO leaks if my vacation depended on it !
Bille

Not a bad idea at all Bille.
Actually some people do take advantage of my offer for demoing the EPIC kites when I send the kites to them. I have a kiter who just left for a trip to the Grand Cayman and wanted to demo an Epic kite for a week while at the island. So I sent him a RENEGADE 13 LTD that he wanted complete with bar. All he had to pay was shipping to his address in Florida USA and he is allowed to hold the kite for 10 days. But I did put a retainer on his Credit Card incase I don't see my kite again. Then once I get the kite back will refund the full amount.
But again that is a great idea RENTING the gears. Maybe I should start that since I have been doing it with out charging for the rentals.

Dimitri M wrote: ...
Not a bad idea at all Bille.

...

Hope i get to kite with you some-day Dimitri ; your one of the Coolest
guys i know, (on this forum) !!

OceanAdventures wrote:

peterheirman wrote:16 17m kites ?
Where are you living ? On the equator where there is hardly any wind ?

Half the size would do even in light winds (15knots) or am I missing something ?
When it is less than 15 knots: then go SUP or go paragliding

It's called the gulf coast of Florida. Didn't realize it was a secret.... 15 knots here were calling in sick
...

Trust me there are way more light wind riders than any other... Everyplace as light wind at some time!

Tell --peterheirman-- to NEVER go to San Diego ; 10-12mph is the Norm !!

Bille

OceanAdventures,
This is the reason why Momi and I came up with the INFINITY Light wind machine kite. So we can make sure kiters that live in places that doesn't blow more then 15 knots can go out and have fun no matter the conditions.
I know so many people who work hard and when they get out of work in the late afternoon they can go and kite even if it's blowing 7 to 12 knots and really enjoy their session. And this is why we created the INFINITY model (fast turning speed, powerful, and feels like a small kite).
I am just lucky to travel around the world and be able to kite in 18 to 30 knots.