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 Post subject: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:08 pm 
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Ok so as someone new to kitesurfing I am spending alot of time out there alone. Launching is pretty easy where I am but self landing is far more complex due to crowded beaches.

THe other day in high winds I was abit overpowered (kept lofting me up 10 ft or so abov the water no matter what I did) and I came up with a tactic that worked really well to self land. Basically I would use a gust at full power to push the kite far to the edge of the wind window over water. When the gust died the kite would stall out over the ocean and I was able to move downwind of the kite, then go pickup my kite in the water and swim/walk it into shore quite easily. Water is pretty shallow for quite a distance into the ocean where I am so it works. At times the kite would haul me deeper into the water but by doing a power stroke to the extreme edge of the window the kite simply could not stay up once the gust blew off.

Technique wise, I really dislike the attachment approach and attempting to land on the beach with dozens of sub-10 year old beach gawkers has proven problematic as I get really nervous about the kids getting too close. Anyone else have a different technique or tactic to self-land a kite when the beach is crowded and you have high winds (35+mph)?


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:19 pm 
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Sounds like the real problem is where and when you are riding.

If
1) the beach is crowded
2) the water is shallow
3) there are lots of kids in the water
4) you're the only kiter there...

Then
1) You're riding at a well known spot
2) You're riding in the peak beach going conditions
3) Other kiters know this spot, and stay away until off-season

Where exactly is this spot?


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:25 pm 
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Did your instructor not go over, demonstrate and have you practice self rescue?

http://www.sbckiteboard.com/kiteboarding_101_display?news_id=41

How can people be out there without knowing how to be independent? boggles the mind.

If this was not covered who ever taught you needs a kick in the ass...


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:26 pm 
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william_rx7 wrote:
Sounds like the real problem is where and when you are riding.

If
1) the beach is crowded
2) the water is shallow
3) there are lots of kids in the water
4) you're the only kiter there...

Then
1) You're riding at a well known spot
2) You're riding in the peak beach going conditions
3) Other kiters know this spot, and stay away until off-season

Where exactly is this spot?


Also a very good point


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:29 pm 
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If you are getting lofted 10 feet you must be seriously overpowered. Let me guess you only have one kite....Right? I have never in two years of kiting felt like I was on the edge of getting lofted. And when I do that kite is coming down asap..that's how people die!!!!!

If the beach is that crowded and no one is able to land you then I would self rescue and swim it in. SAFER FOR EVERYONE....


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:42 pm 
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beach is crowded u need to self land. this is by far the safest technique

1) pull qr
2) wrap lines
3) make kite into sail and sail back.

If you can't do it, learn, it's a useful technique called a self rescue.


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:55 pm 
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you don't even have to sail back, though if you were getting lofted 10 ft off the water that's what i would do

i usually just ride up to the beach, make sure nothing is downwind of me, hook leash to the flag out line, and unhook and let go of the bar so the kite flags out. then just walk up the line to the kite and flip it over. if you get the kite in the right spot before you throw the bar, your lines won't spaghetti bowl

this is really the only safe way i've found to self-land if you're pretty powered. i usually try the standard method of setting it on its wingtip and pulling a top line, but when you're lit this doesn't work very well. i give it 2-3 tries while hooked to the flagging line and if the kite falls on its back or just keeps bouncing off the beach i just unhook the loop and let go.


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:05 am 
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dracop wrote:
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Anyone else have a different technique or tactic to self-land a kite when the beach is crowded and you have high winds (35+mph)?


Drop it in the water , away from people ; roll up the lines, "Before" Ya get near
any swimmers. I do that a LOT , at Mohave !

Bille


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:03 am 
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If you are going to land your kite by taking it to the edge of the window and pulling the top middle line, make sure to depower your kite first by pulling in the trim line.


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 Post subject: Re: Need tips for self-landing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:25 am 
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When really powered to the point of being lofted, self land by punching out mate, preferably over water, if possible and safe for others. Don't piss about in those conditions. End of story.


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