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 Post subject: Re: Which is the best glue for valves?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:35 pm 
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Stormsure is the same I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Which is the best glue for valves?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:41 pm 
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guys just a warning, be careful using any glue designed to be used with vinyl it can melt the polyurethane that the bladder is made of --- it won't hurt the valve which is plastic but the polyurethane can melt and if you get a wrinkle it will ruin your glue job. Glues like aquaseal and 3m 5200 (red) have been used for several years so we know they are fine to restick a valve. Also while acetone can remove some glues it won't remove aquaseal or 5200. Any solvent which removes those will also dissolve the polyurethane so make sure you restick the valve correctly the first time. If you make a mistake you have to cut out the valve fix the bladder with some tear aid (use tear aid type a, type b is for vinyl), cut a hole for the valve and restick. If you are doing valve resticks you are also repairing your own bladder, so you will want a roll of tear aid type a anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Which is the best glue for valves?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:14 am 
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I've been using this for a few years. A German friend bought me a few tubes http://www.pattex.de/do-it-yourself-mit ... arent.html

Works well and doesn't require weight to bond, but i have no idea what the glue is or is designed to stick. Always wondered what glue was actually used to glue valves and bladders? Is there a general type rather then a brand that can be used?


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 Post subject: Re: Which is the best glue for valves?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:25 am 
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Seems like people like the replacement valves except for the 15 USD cost. I've found them to work well. I'd be skeptical about several glue adhesives -- fine for the first application, but the residue could be a problem with subsequent repairs.

Has anyone tried the same stuff that's on the replacement valves? I'm pretty sure it's the same stuff used in 3M transfer tapes (without backing). Note: this is not the typical double-sided tape -- it's just the goo that's used on tape -- pressure sensitive adhesive (PSA). I'm thinking that you'd clean off the old valve and bladder, apply the transfer tape to the valve, cut out the center, remove the liner, and apply to the bladder just as you would the new valve.

Several flavors can be bought here:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#transfer-tape/=st8lcp

I'm thinking 9482PC would be good, but they don't sell it wide enough (perhaps it can be overlapped ok since the goo is very conformal, or buy custom cut). F9460PC may be another good choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Which is the best glue for valves?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:18 pm 
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Im convinced the glue on the aftermarket valves is double-sided tear aid.
Impossible to find double-sided tear aid on the market - if someone has please do share.


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