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 Post subject: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:09 am 
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could just be me, but kiteboarding in the last couple of years has become more and more about the complexities of gear and less and less about originality and progressive riding. There is way more scope for progression in kiteboarding, any styles - not just wakestyle - huge scope, but kiteboarding industry recently has chosen even more to focus on tech and as a result the media produced is just so uninspiring and the user base has completely changed.

I am hoping for kiteboarding to die out (i actually think industry is dying right now, partly with growth of sup), and to be reborn with a similar energy and inspiration it once had, there is so much future. exciting progression to kiteboarding ahead and it for sure has very little to do with the small design changes in foil performance or whatever. Kiteboarding is dead.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:35 am 
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Of course most of it is boring. There's enough video of handles passes and other variations of people hanging from strings to last two lifetimes. So called tricks from five years ago look about the same as today.

The only real interesting video is capturing ocean conditions because they include a broader subject matter. The other stuff looks like monkeys on vines.

What exciting progression to kiteboarding do you see? I suppose advances like foils are interesting for awhile.

It really doesn't have to be exciting. People play golf their whole life because they enjoy it and the same holds true for kiting.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:45 am 
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Kiteboarding will never be what it once was. But that's ok. It will evolve. Go through phases. It is what it is.

I'm looking forward to the time this relentless trying to copy other sports dies off.

Manufacturers videos are so terribly boring the moment. It's either some muscly young dude with a knee brace doing multiple low level unhooked trick. A hot chick doing basic tricks or a strapless surfer riding some pristine break or a dude on a foil board and foils kite riding in stupid light winds.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:04 pm 
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I agree Mr. Plummet.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:11 pm 
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What about surfing?
Isn't that actually the same same since 20 years?

Compared to that Kitesurfing is way different and produces new tricks constantly.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 12:43 pm 
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I could be wrong but i doubt foils will have anything to do with it - they will fade away as an overpriced over complex fad IMO as far as mainstream coverage goes, a new generation of riders that aspire to original and creative ways of riding would be a good start.

Strapless freestyle is one of the few areas that has seen progression, not easy, but never is when you start trying something never landed before. Actually surfing and kitesurfing have something in common - they are both using the wind to assist landing the next level of air tricks on waves. It's tough though because there is so much randomness to deal with strapless when it comes to the wind hitting the board/floating it /gusting on it etc.. so hard to do some of those trick consistently without grabs.. seen some cool new stuff though amongst the 1 000 000 other boring kite vids released.

Anyway be interesting to see where it goes. PKRA will maybe just die out now due to lack of support from riders? Something new and interesting may emerge. There is no doubt that many of the mainstream kite companies are far more focused on SUP right now due to it potentially making like 100 times more potential profit, which is maybe why there is less progressive riding in marketing/less budget/less risk in mainstream marketing of kiteboarding.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 1:54 pm 
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If its performance driven then it will be progressing. Its not just the performance of the kiter - they find a limit to that and then maybe they invent a change of equipment to allow the kiter to progress further.

They still haven't invented a kite that lets you ride continuously directly into the wind on a wave.

There may be whole new areas that haven't been gone into yet. They may use kites that pull directly on foils with the kiter up in the air and with no board.

They may make boards that are so light that you can use ground effect on a cushion of air below the board, so the board is riding on air, not water.

They might invent a kite and foil board that you can ride on apparent wind when there is no wind.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:09 pm 
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Seems similar to the lifestyle portrayed in other sports, especially surfing.
The "lifestyle" shows how "fun" it's supposed to be, something to get into besides the double overhead waves, crazy speed runs and bone snapping wake style moves most of us won't even try. But like the perfect session, the lifestyle is a pipe dream. Pipe dreams get boring, for most well balanced people. The sport is still pretty awesome though.

To those who say it's not what it was, I wil say that's good and bad.
There are more "kooks" and "punters," less geniuses and madmen.
But as I read this morning about an avalanche that sent a friend to hospital last weekend, it's good to feel kiting has mostly stepped back a little from the edge of extreme danger.

You can still push yourself a little further, and be glad the gear is more reliable now.
Don't sweat the technology side of it. Or the media side.
Just go ride. Don't worry, it's still not golf.


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:11 pm 
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ronnie wrote:
There may be whole new areas that haven't been gone into yet. They may use kites that pull directly on foils with the kiter up in the air and with no board.


Like this?



well he has board for launching..


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 Post subject: Re: Has kiteboarding lifestyle media become really boring?
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 2:39 pm 
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joriws wrote:
ronnie wrote:
There may be whole new areas that haven't been gone into yet. They may use kites that pull directly on foils with the kiter up in the air and with no board.


Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrw3lIuSvyA

well he has board for launching..


Yes.
And like this.



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