fdvj wrote: Oldnbroken wrote:
Oldnbroken wrote:Franz, Bertrand, Nico, Aaron, Sharon and Drew are all affiliated to Lou, not the money guy.
The design of the kites, twintips and surfboards all are due to direct input from Lou, Franz, Bertrand and Nico (and others).
These people are not from Poland.
The presence of the people in Hawaii and Florida are all important pieces to their current product line and the development of the company from the beginning until now.
The Twintip boards are made in Austria.
I think the surfboards are made in China.
The kites are made in a factory nowhere near Poland.
Most of the testing and refining of the product is directly due to this group of people and much of that happens in Hawaii.
The money source is another story.
I hope something positive happens because the kites are unique in kiteboarding, nothing else feels very similar to the Wainman kites. The Joke TT is also a unique board, does not feel like any other twin I've even ridden or owned.
Some small kiteboarding companies are delivering some of the most interesting kites in the business.
Be a shame to be left with nothing but the big five.
Like you said these people are affiliated to LOU ! The money guy is from Poland I believe, without this group of people the link to Hawaii is lost. Anyone can test kites anywhere but that doesn't make them from that place.
Every kite company has the flying goods manufactured in SriLanka, VietNam, or several locations in China.
The product designers (CAD guy) can reside anywhere and send files electronically, as we all know.
The graphic designer (CAD guy) also has the ability to work from anywhere.
Testing and demoing kites is limited to places that have wind and water and preferably a place that has lots of wind and water all year long.
Then they need people capable of giving the feedback required to conceptualize, test and refine the designs into great finished working prototypes that are ready for the nuts and bolts part of the company to bring the finished ideas to market.
The question really comes down to where the ideas and the shaping of the products came from.
I believe that had far more to do with Lou, Nico, Franz, Bertrand, and several other kiters associated with Lou Wainman than it did with Mike Husky and the Polish part of the company.
They obviously need both sides of that equation to be successful.
I'm not sure that the guys from Poland have come so far as the group at Best that was running the company (including concept, design, testing, QC, distribution, sales, etc, etc.) with almost zero input from Shannon Best for years before he left.