Postby Dan-at-Duotone » Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:32 pm
Sorry. As I mentioned in a previous post it's been insane busy here. Just noticed this post. If you have specific questions in the future feel free to PM me in case I miss something.
As to the windranges... As people have mentioned, these are extremely subjective. Besides windspeed, it also depends a lot on the person (weight, style of riding, board being used, experience, etc.) and location (chop, waves, current, wind direction and quality, etc). The windranges listed are not an objective guide for what to rig, just something to give you an idea. We try to stay consistent across the charts so that if you know how you compare on one of our kites, you can infer how you'll compare on other models/sizes. As to the new Neo being less accurate, it's entirely possible. Totally new design. Working on getting it dialed. Far more useful than any online chart is talking to a retailer. We do a pretty good job of handpicking and working with our retailers to make sure they know our lineup, and they'll be really helpful because they'll know you, the local conditions where you're riding, and how our kites pull relative to each other and relative to many other designs on the market. This is just one of the many reasons why we support brick and mortar and always recommend that you shop local.
As far as not providing the AR and projected area... In my opinion providing the projected area is useless. There is so much more going on with kite design that affects the power of a kite than the surface area or projected area. For example, the 2013 Evo pulled like a truck. Way more powerful than the 2013 Rebel. All pre-2014 Evos pulled way harder than Rebels, and it was most true in 2013. Probably 1.5-2sqm more power in the Evo per same size Rebel. Yet if you compare the projected areas, a 2013 Evo 12m was 6.9 sqm, while the 2013 Rebel 12m was 7.5. In fact, the Rebel itself lost some power from 2012 to 2013, but the surface area and projected area remained the same.
Same thing with aspect ratio... The Rebel and Fuse always had identical aspect ratios, but the Fuse flew like a higher aspect ratio kite. The Rebel 2012 and 2013 also had identical aspect ratios but flew significantly differently.
I agree that these numbers can be tools, and I'll try to get the information for 2014 kites and post it here, but I think that generally it can be more misleading than helpful in many cases... A small change in entry profile or bridling can affect power far more than projected area, and they can also affect where the kite sits in the window/speed through the window/drift far more than AR. Plus, unlike AR and projected area, they're almost impossible to see by just plain looking at the kite.
As I said earlier, the best thing I can recommend is getting to know your retailer. If there's no NKB retailer in your area, you can always call one up. Spending 5 minutes on the phone with a knowledgeable retailer will get you WAY more information than looking at numbers on a screen or in a book. Hopefully they can set you up with a demo so you can see for yourself. Or talk to people on the beach. Or, as always, feel free to PM me with particular questions. I have a pretty good grasp of how our kites fly and I'm always happy to share that information.
I'll still try to get those numbers for those of you who really want it. Assuming I can do so, it may take a couple days so please be patient.
-Dan