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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:14 pm 
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piccio wrote:
Hey Piccio,

I like that challenge as it makes for a great time :thumb: The only issue is the part of imposing on others to save some money. The Canadian in me see's the beauty in a tent and 30 days of living with no required destination. Lose the whole mooching off buddies/family and do a real road trip. Camping on a secluded beach with the sound of the waves crashing on the beach and the warmth of a campfire is an amazing experience. Waking up to that first coffee and knowing that the sunrise is going to make the dawn patrol sessions the highlight of the trip absolutely Epic! . Hitting a spot that is firing and being able to stay until the wind quits or you do is what it is all about. No wind than a quick internet search to see what area is going off next is the only road map needed. No requirements to be anywhere but the ability to be everywhere is what the North American road trip is all about. It appears that you think that extended trips is an isolated thing to your neck of the woods. Extended road trips is a right of passage for most of us as is traveling to other countries.

James

everyone likes that way ,put together wishes of wife,sons,friends(kiters and not),find a good and safe place with nice weather wind waves and good foods is a "mission impossible"
camping on a tent for 30 or more days?
where is that place?
let's go togheter! will be a wonderful circus!
it is not a challenge between US and EU simply because there is only one at the start,
you cannot partecipate!!!!!! monday morning is waiting for you every week!!!!!!!!
do not misunderstand me ,do not hate US ctz. Our kiting life ,relationship and politics are two different things.
US way of living will have one result: our sons will live worse than us .
should be 50 per cent working for toys and other 50 for using the rebels!
would not have been better sink nina pinta and santa maria and send cristoforo on a horse south or east?

ooops!!!!! dear Toby why don't you make a dedicated forum section for trolling ,insulting and offending each other? opening at our own risk ,president of course Bob M.[/quote]

Something must be lost in the translation! You seem to believe that all North Americans live to work.... you are sadly mistaken brother! Monday mornings don't mean anything to me... Yes there are people that work a 9to5 but not everyone. Unless you are independently wealthy than you have to report to work at some time. My quality of life (and I can only speak on my behalf) is very high..... I do work a high stress job (Paramedic) but I get paid very well and work less than 4 months combined for the year (after holidays and stats)! I use kiting and other outdoor pursuits to keep myself balanced. I don't stress over the things I cannot control nor do I allow myself to be burdened with trying to compete with the jones's! I live my life doing the things that I love to do. My profession enables me the time off and resources to travel a lot. My wife shares the same desire to be as free as possible and my kids are learning that there is a big beautiful world outside!

James

The beauty of my North American job enables me to have the luxury to be off for three months at a time while still collecting my pay cheque! It doesn't come down to where you live but the lifestyle you choose to have!


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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:03 pm 
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Exactly, its a choice
I could work more and make more money, but I prefer a balance. I tell my kids all the time get educated and work hard so you can do the things you love to do. If you do not build some sort of foundation while you are young , you will pay a price the rest of your life.
Anyone can control their destiny, but it takes work and effort. The rewards are well worth it!!


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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:14 pm 
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matth wrote:
Exactly, its a choice
I could work more and make more money, but I prefer a balance. I tell my kids all the time get educated and work hard so you can do the things you love to do. If you do not build some sort of foundation while you are young , you will pay a price the rest of your life.
Anyone can control their destiny, but it takes work and effort. The rewards are well worth it!!

A choice? I'd rather say a must! choice is when you can choose .aren't you telling them to work hard otherwise they "will pay a price for the rest of their life" where is the other chance?
anyway here in italy we are on the same way ! no much chances ,crisis ,no money ,corruption,unenployment ,everyone is arranging to make a "fundation "to prepare the future.hard translations ! better go sleeping ,tomorrow is windy
fuck Bob Marley I want to be president of trollers!!!!!!!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:13 am 
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blacktip wrote:
Osprey1 wrote:
As a U.S. citizen ...


Question. Are you a U.S. citizen, or are you an American?

BIG difference.

As a U.S. citizen you're pretty screwed. You are employee of a corporation called the UNITED STATES, a sly way to deceive Americans into believing they are dealing with the real government of the states united. U.S. is a corporation that is about to go bust and that therefor has to go to more and more extreme measures to keep the revenue coming in, simply by increasing taxes on its citizens, or by invading other countries to rob them of their wealth and resources.U.S. soldiers do not defend the people of America, they are defending U.S. corporate interests. U.S. citizens are bound and ruled by corporate law and are not protected by the constitution.

As an American youre not restricted and limited by the deceivers in Washington D.C. You have the constitution to protect youre rights and freedom. An American protected by the constitution probably enjoys the most Freedom and Rights any man in the world can have. So its well worth to look into this matter and defend what it means to be American.

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."
-- Patrick Henry

http://www.usavsus.info/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1jFlhpyCP0


Blacktip, you're spot-on! :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:37 am 
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mede wrote:
blacktip wrote:
Osprey1 wrote:
As a U.S. citizen ...


Question. Are you a U.S. citizen, or are you an American?

BIG difference.

As a U.S. citizen you're pretty screwed. You are employee of a corporation called the UNITED STATES, a sly way to deceive Americans into believing they are dealing with the real government of the states united. U.S. is a corporation that is about to go bust and that therefor has to go to more and more extreme measures to keep the revenue coming in, simply by increasing taxes on its citizens, or by invading other countries to rob them of their wealth and resources.U.S. soldiers do not defend the people of America, they are defending U.S. corporate interests. U.S. citizens are bound and ruled by corporate law and are not protected by the constitution.

As an American youre not restricted and limited by the deceivers in Washington D.C. You have the constitution to protect youre rights and freedom. An American protected by the constitution probably enjoys the most Freedom and Rights any man in the world can have. So its well worth to look into this matter and defend what it means to be American.

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."
-- Patrick Henry

http://www.usavsus.info/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1jFlhpyCP0


Blacktip, you're spot-on! :thumb:


Perhaps you meant Republican?


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 Post subject: Re: European vs American kite culture
PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:18 pm 
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ktflyer381 wrote:
mede wrote:
blacktip wrote:

Question. Are you a U.S. citizen, or are you an American?

BIG difference.

As a U.S. citizen you're pretty screwed. You are employee of a corporation called the UNITED STATES, a sly way to deceive Americans into believing they are dealing with the real government of the states united. U.S. is a corporation that is about to go bust and that therefor has to go to more and more extreme measures to keep the revenue coming in, simply by increasing taxes on its citizens, or by invading other countries to rob them of their wealth and resources.U.S. soldiers do not defend the people of America, they are defending U.S. corporate interests. U.S. citizens are bound and ruled by corporate law and are not protected by the constitution.

As an American youre not restricted and limited by the deceivers in Washington D.C. You have the constitution to protect youre rights and freedom. An American protected by the constitution probably enjoys the most Freedom and Rights any man in the world can have. So its well worth to look into this matter and defend what it means to be American.

"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."
-- Patrick Henry

http://www.usavsus.info/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1jFlhpyCP0


Blacktip, you're spot-on! :thumb:


Perhaps you meant Republican?


At this point, this thread has crossed into the political conversations that I come to Kiteforum to get away from. :-?

I think the intent of this thread is luxury vs. economy kite trips. Luxury or economy of time and money. I take both kinds of trips. Although I never take a month, I do take a week at a time a few times a year and go enjoy a good kite spot and spring for a nice place to stay. I also take some kite "thunder runs" where I pick a location on Thursday night based on a forecast, drive 8 to 12 hours, kite as much as possible, camp on the beach, and drive home Sunday night after getting the last second of wind and sunlight. You can call it European or American style, but we all do what we can to kite when we can.


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