Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

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[sijandy]

@ flyingweasel - stop mincing your words and get your point across will ya haha. Amusing.

[sijandy]

Anything left you still do not understand????

Yeah.... gojoe's

[SalmonSlayer]

I have not seen anyone bring up the Surefire spreader bar from Slingshot. A while back I removed QR hook from a Surefire spreader bar and made it into a sliding QR hook.

The bend in the shaft makes the hook sit upside down which seemed a bit strange. It still worked due to the small "donkey dick" holding the ring when not under a load.

The biggest negatives of this sliding set up

1. Too easy to release. One time I was picking up a board for another kiteboarder. The board I was carrying hit the hook release. The release is triggered by a small lever that is pushed towards the rider. I can see unintended releases occurring more often with this set up.
2. It is harder to reassemble a released QR hook underwater. If I am in deep water with a typical QR, I can raise it out of the water to see what I am doing. With a QR that is attached to the spreader bar, the user needs to know how to reassemble the QR and reconnect with the bar blind. This would be a problem a problem for any spreader bar based QR. This issue can be overcome with practice, but a QR is designed to stay with the spreader bar it must be easy to reassemble blind.

This basic set up with a bigger hook, shorter shaft and a push away release would be close to a solution for those that want to unhook.

This a pic of the Surefire bar as it was sold by Slingshot.

[kookkiter]

thank Starsky

[Jackie Treehorn]

I have not seen anyone bring up the Surefire spreader bar from Slingshot.

Thats because they were crap. The single point attachment to the spreader bar made the hook far more susceptable to twisting forces than a conventional hook - mine lasted about 4 months before it sheared off completely. The little release lever was a pain to use - it was fiddly, prone to being knocked, only on one side and positioned far too close to the body compared to a modern chicken loop release. You also needed some tension in the lines for it to release reliably and the smaller closure on the loop made unhooking/hooking back in a bit of a pain.

You lot keep on saying that you want to improve on the modern connection system, but its still not clear what problems you have with it - other than occasionally becoming unhooked which is a minor inconvenience at worst.The chicken loop/spreader bar hook system that you want to get rid of gives you the option of launching unhooked, riding unhooked, does not rely on any mechanical components and gives you two completely seperate means of disengaging yourself for your kite. What exactly are this big improvements that these other systems bring to the table?