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 Post subject: Re: F one release b7
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:29 am 
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Moving towards kite makes sense! Thanks, will try.

What If there is a gust or if you are overpowered will it not get new tension, fly off its back and yank you?

What about self rescue? From my b4 and b5 experience, the kite starts flying around if I start winding the lines up. There will be tension if you pull the flag line a bit and start wrapping.
If i walk up the flag line, kite keeps flying around and doing that until I reach past the swivel.

What if one gets caught in offshore? Not good if have to swim out to sea to keep the kite from powering up...


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 Post subject: Re: F one release b7
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:52 pm 
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F-One is the biggest scum that I know.


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 Post subject: Re: F one release b7
PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:34 pm 
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please, the idea of my bandit looping, me releasing, the kite still pulling in what is the released position, and then you say swim towards it because its still pulling. dream on and stop supporting a lethal release system.

I teach with the bandit and trying to teach a bar pack down and using the kite to get back to shore was always very hit and miss after the initial release .

I now use a single line realise, i.e. ozone bar and feel more confident each time the student pushes the release away and the bandit always depowers, rather than sometimes!!!111


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 Post subject: Re: F one release b7
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:07 pm 
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I thought I will dig this thread out with my recent quick release experience with B7 12m and B8 9m.
I had trouble several times with B7 but being a beginner I think i missed a crucial step.
Yesterday I popped the quick release by mistake on B8 9m after a backroll kiteloop. It didn't depower right away but after pulling an additional feet on the leash lifeline and wait for bar to travel all the way to yellow ball the kite turned around leading edge down with strut facing down wind. At that point it is fully depower. Before putting back chicken loop together make sure you keep a feet or so of leash line in hand so it stays depower.
I can't confirm if it works on B7 12 m.

Another experience with 12m was inverted kite where it flies with strut facing out, this usually happens when kite stalls after a jump and fall leading edge down with strut facing downwind. To bring the kite around just pull 6 feet on 1 back line (make sure to not wrap around any body part) and it will turn around, pulling front line won't work. Most likely the kite will flip around resulting with back line twisted around center line. If you depower a bit the kite flies fine and you can get back to the beach to sort it out.


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 Post subject: Re: F one release b7
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:53 pm 
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kochease wrote:
Just like with any make, model or brand 2 center line safety system people need to remember that if your kite doesn't flag out when safety is hit, your kite will be depowered but all you have to do is swim toward the kite just a bit and it will roll over on its back and go neutral in the water.

I think it is in the manual for the bandit too, I will have to look. It doesn't bother me at all when riding or teaching, I just move or swim toward the kite so lines get some slack and it flops over dead in the water. I tried the bandit 7 on the Blade uni bar and had same results as the bandit bar and the Blade uni bar is a single center line flag system.

And what if the shit has hit the fan and you can't swim towards the kite? If a safety system has been activated, it should kill all power in the kite with no further input from the rider.


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