"Generic freeriding", meaning mainly flat water and jumping, and some waves, but no spectacular tubes like in the ocean, more mushy small waves (mainly onshore as well) as in the mediterranean most days
I have flown evos, and cannot find a way to test the neo, and see how they jump e go upwind/depower
Righto. Well what separates these two kites then is jumping versus wave ability. The neo principally is a wave kite, can be ridden a size or two smaller but will max out quicker. The Evo has more aspect, is okay in the hands of a good rider in the waves, but ultimately it doesn't come as easy, nor will it hold up in critical sections...but then again doesn't sound like you have decent waves anyway. The neo is a 'nice' and friendly jumper, the Evo is a big booster in the right hands and the right winds. The tips tend to wobble a bit in high winds on the Evo, but it's not too bad at the bar end.
Ultimately the neo is a focused wave kite built to be powerful hence you can use the smallest size possible the Evo is an all round boosting freeride kite, doesn't do anything brilliantly unless lit of your tits. Bar pressure is solid on both kites, more so on the Evo though...the neo is really nimble, the Evo is more obvious...
Honestly from your riding style, try the dice and if you can the new dice. With the advent of the new serious C coming out (those who freeride with the Vegas will no more) and the huge R and D being pumped into the neo, they have moved the dice more into the freestyle arena. More powerful, bigger bottom end, bigger booster with more hangtime (they have opened up the C arc more), more reactive, much much less lag. Not as good in the waves though in our opinion on the surf setting except at it lower to mid wind range..you get overpowered on a SB much quicker, more pull through the turns, can't spill the power as quick (it flies more forward...hence the above charaxterisistcs mentioned). But the changes make sense given their line up.
Dice is a better choice over the neo and Evo for what you have mentioned. I'm still a little perplexed by the Evo, I'm not sure what it adds to the north line up to be perfectly honest...maybe a bigger boosting 4 line option that suites heavier riders who want obvious power, but which still jumps less well than the old fuse and less than the rebel...I don't quite get it.
woow! you already demoed the 2015!
makes absolutely sense, given that you are probably one of the most prominent dice ambassador online
I think the modifications they made makes sense. one of the reason I did not go for the dice was the poor bottom end (I do not want to learn how to fly a C kite) and average jumping / hangtime
I north has improved here, I am very happy to move to 3 struts. look like they are moving it a bit towards the bandit design, correct?
so far I like the EVOs, what I am impressed is the speed they generate through apparent wind, it really accelerates a lot
I am also surprised to hear that the neo has lower bar pressure than the neo. I thought it was the opposite, and I already find evo pressure quite light and very comfortable
Well the demos have been here for a couple of weeks, my mate is looking for a new kite so that's the only reason really I have been on it so early. A clear sign on its changes is just standing there today on the beach waiting for another winter pulse to rush in, standing side on or 90 degrees to the wind, it flew forward and well beyond this point before falling back. Generates more apparent wind than the old one because of this and yes the bottom end is far easier to access.
Closer to the bandit...it's still more C than a bandit, still kicks its ass in critical wave sections..but yeh it's lost some of its potential on a surfboard and the bar pressure has slightly increased. Been on the wave setting on a SB and the wakestyle on a TT in 4m swell if you wanted to ask. Goes bigger for sure and floats more. But that's kites, you take away from area to improve another. That's just how it is. But I suppose it's moved more into the realm of the bandit in terms of the market it will cater for, for sure.
Be very interesting to see how north market this kite soon.
One of the best qualities of the current Dice is it's amazing top end. I have comfortably taken my 9 to 30knts without any problems. Any insight on the new one. I assume with more bottom end they had to sacrifice at the top along with more bar pressure.
Also did you fly it with shortened back lines, as that really powered up my current Dice.