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 Post subject: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:57 am 
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I'd vote the Dyno as I haven't tried the Juice 18m…

And the contest is now open :winner1:

Have you tried both kites in around 10-12Kn?? :roll:

How was the pop, float and air time??? :-o

Please vote! :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:15 pm 
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If you are over 80 kg, then this is most likely the kites with the longest lightwind hangtime. I have not tried them all, but the kites with the longest wingspan and huge camber with long lines will give you the longest lightwind hangtime.

1 Speed 4 21
2 Chrono 18
3 Speed 4 19
4 Speed 3 21
5 Speed 3 19
6 Edge 19
7 2011 Dyno 18
8 ?????
9 ?????
10 ????
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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:26 pm 
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I've ridden the 17 Dyno in 10-12kn on a Nugget strapped at 75kg...fantastic boost + airtime
I have not ridden the 18 Juice
The Dyno 17 2013 / 2014 is really size 17.8m2....so you see not much size difference
Dyno in my opinion would be better at airtime because of it's shape + projected area

Maybe wait a little longer and get Dyno 18 2015....real size is 18.3m2 :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:12 pm 
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SupaEZ wrote:
I've ridden the 17 Dyno in 10-12kn on a Nugget strapped at 75kg...fantastic boost + airtime
I have not ridden the 18 Juice
The Dyno 17 2013 is really size 17.8m2....so you see not much size difference
Dyno in my opinion would be better at airtime because of it's shape + projected area

Maybe wait a little longer and get Dyno 18 2014....real size is 18.3m2 :wink:



"Maybe wait a little longer and get Dyno 18 2014....real size is 18.3m2"

Is this true? Are they going to bring back the 18m? If its the same or close to the 2011 this would be fantastic. I'll buy one for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:43 pm 
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I have the Edge 15m and 19m

The wind range of the 19m is good at 80k I can hold the kite (full power to 20kns here in Brasil). The hang time is good. I would love to compare it with the 2011 Dyno. Might have to take a trip to the north and meet Mr Toby. So I can not say if its better then the rest. I had the 16m Dyno before the 19m Edge. No issues with 16m Dyno just to small (Just need to buy some good lines)

Two issues I have with the Edge

1. Because its a true race kite when you do say a " board back pass" or say a " Hart attack" something that requires long hang time the kite tends to over fly you. You always need to compensate for this (kite loves to ride to high in the window) Makes some of the complex tricks more complex. I'm going to slow the kite down even more and see If this will help.

2. The construction is almost the same is paper. You need to baby this kite in every way possible.

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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:04 pm 
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The Chrono 15m although off topic would possibly be my first choice for hangtime and I could take it on the snow too (and I need a light wind machine for the mountain) just not so keen on foils for water use :-?

Dyno 17m would be 2014, I need it for this summer (Europe time = now) not sure when the 2015 will be released?

Heard about Edge quality issues, I trust Ozone for foils more than for pumps..


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:25 pm 
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s1buell_wl wrote:

Is this true? Are they going to bring back the 18m? If its the same or close to the 2011 this would be fantastic. I'll buy one for sure.


Look at Billy's photos on this thread
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2385142&start=20


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 5:31 pm 
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mr moon wrote:

Dyno 17m would be 2014, I need it for this summer (Europe time = now)


You can have one right now
http://new.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/91 ... rderby=dsc
This 2014 is 17.8m2 just like the 2013 i rode


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:07 pm 
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SupaEZ wrote:
mr moon wrote:

Dyno 17m would be 2014, I need it for this summer (Europe time = now)


You can have one right now
http://new.ikitesurf.com/classifieds/91 ... rderby=dsc
This 2014 is 17.8m2 just like the 2013 i rode


I'd rather go for the 18m 2015


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 Post subject: Re: North Juice 18m VS Dyno 17m best light wind airtime?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:56 pm 
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s1buell_wl wrote:
I have the Edge 15m and 19m

The wind range of the 19m is good at 80k I can hold the kite (full power to 20kns here in Brasil). The hang time is good. I would love to compare it with the 2011 Dyno. Might have to take a trip to the north and meet Mr Toby. So I can not say if its better then the rest. I had the 16m Dyno before the 19m Edge. No issues with 16m Dyno just to small (Just need to buy some good lines)

Two issues I have with the Edge

1. Because its a true race kite when you do say a " board back pass" or say a " Hart attack" something that requires long hang time the kite tends to over fly you. You always need to compensate for this (kite loves to ride to high in the window) Makes some of the complex tricks more complex. I'm going to slow the kite down even more and see If this will help.

2. The construction is almost the same is paper. You need to baby this kite in every way possible.

cheers





Yep on the first one. Why I got off the edges. Hangtime does not always equal airstyle, it's not that simple. The edge compared to the 2011 dyno requires a lot of bar throw attention and when you move past say simple tail grab board off, things get very interesting indeed...but the edge will smoke it on a race course. Race kite do not necessarily equal good airstyle kites. We need to separate these two out once and for all. As far as the new dyno goes, who knows?? We will find out I suppose. I have a feeling the best airstyle kite will lie between the juice and the new dyno...


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