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Chrono Launching Question

Postby davesails7 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:36 am

I had an incident today that could easily fit in on the "most embarassing moment" thread :lol: I've never launched a foil before. I just got a Chrono 15m. Wind was 13-14 knots or so. How hard could it be? I had watched Ozone's Chrono tips and tricks video, but the thing would not inflate for me?

The only thing I can figure is I was trying to launch it too close to the edge of the window. Looking back at the video afterwards, it does say to launch with the kite 45 degrees downwind. Is that the trick?

The first try, the kite got up, but only the middle of the kite inflated and it kept falling back in the window. I pulled on the rear lines and steered left and right like in the video, but it wasn't really working. One wing tip did eventually inflate, but the other got part of the bridle wrapped around it, so I released to the leash and set it up again.

The second try the thing didn't inflate at all, and got all twisted. Is this all because I wasn't standing far enough upwind?

To make things worse, of course, there was a couple sitting on the beach videoing this whole disaster of me repeatedly failing to launch a kite and then untangling the lines :lol:

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby Randahl » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:05 am

Almost everyone I have seen and I myself use the hot launch. You can get it to launch like in the vid when there is decent wind but it will drift back to the power zone anyway if it isn't inflated. The wingtip flop thing happens every time since the kite inflates from the middle out. If you keep having the wingtip flop after the kite is inflated you might have some bridal lines crossed. That was the diagnosis when I had that happening to me.

The best technique to inflate and get the wingtips to pop out and to sometimes sort out a tangle with the bridal and wingtip is to backstall it straight downwind. This will make the tips pop out if they aren't tangled. Sometimes you backstall a few times and let it fly up top to work more air into it.

Also I keep the bar pulled in to keep it from Hindenburging when it's straight overhead. I find using the back lines helps keep it more stable when you're on the beach and busy grabbing a board or something.

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby davesails7 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:51 am

Sounds good, thanks. When you hotlaunch it, you still just put sand on one wingtip like in the video?

Here's the video in case anyone else needs it:

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby plummet » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:04 am

Flag the kite to start with with a bit of san on the upwind wing tip.

When lines are unwound and good walk the at 60 ish degrees and slowly bring the rear wind tip around.

Here's the most important part.

PULL THE BAR IN ALL THE WAY. Keep the bar in until you see some inflation happening. Then let the bar out slowly. If you let too much bar out then the kite will try to fly to the zenith and the wing tips will tip tuck and most likely wrap around them selves. Let the bar out more and let the kite inflate. All the time wiggling the bar left and right to stop tucking. the more inflated the more bar out.

Once all its mostly inflated then let the bar out and its on like donkey kong,

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby plummet » Mon Apr 06, 2015 3:30 am

PS. If your doing all these good things and it still is hard to launch or doesn't launch and the bridle looks a bit funny.

It probably has a bridle snag. Its very easy to get these. Check to see if anything looks weird and fix it. This happened to me last night. Took a couple of failed attempts before I figured it out and untangled the bridle.

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby Jzh_perth » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:37 am

re your sand question...

When hot launching, you'll lay the kite out perpendicular (90 degrees) to the wind direction, and sand the trailing edge to stop it moving or flipping. Once you've unwound your lines, you should be directly upwind of the kite, with the kite at 12 directly downwind. If you hook into the bar at this point and slowly tension the front lines by walking backwards, you should see the leading edge start to curl up towards you. The kite will slowly start to inflate at this time, depending on how confident you are you may wish to let it inflate a little, or you can continue to walk backwards and the kite will continue to curl towards you and eventually left off the ground.

At this point you do what Plummet has described re inflating.

The side launch works very well once the kite is inflated and you have stopped to have a break mid session. Assuming you've secured the kite by sanding the upwind wing tip, rest of kite is downwind you can easily relaunch by walking 45-60 degrees upwind and slowly curling the kite off the ground by tensioning the downwind lines first. Kite will nicely curl up towards you in a controlled fashion ready for you to steer to 12.

Once airborne, how had you planned on landing ?

You have a couple of options :

1. Safest option is to land with a helper at the side of the wind window. I find keeping the bar sheeted in helps control the kite and stops is flying too far forwards and then stalling.

2. You can flag to safety (from 12), and watch the whole thing fall in a heap downwind. You might get a few simple wraps or tangles in doing this.

3. Back stall from 12 by pulling the rear steering lines (Ozone has a strap) to stall the kite backwards through the wind window. If done controlled and slowly this is fine. if done badly, you risk powering the kite up as it reverses down and landing it too hard, or having the kite power up and hot launch you. You'll only do this once - scary. Keeping the tension on the back lines will ensure the kite won't take off one landed.

4. An alternative to 3. is to bring the kite down the side of the window like an assisted landing, but then back stalling from the 3 or 9 o'clock position. Done correctly the kite will fall back onto it's trailing edge and slide into the 12 o clock position downwind. I always seem to mess this up so don't do this too much, plus you need heaps of space.

Caution: having the kite fully inflated, at 12 dead downwind is a little dangerous. if you accidentally release the rear lines you'll experience a full power hot launch, which is not nice. I usually unhook at this point and then tie the kite off using my leash (via the back lines) to my buried board or car hitch or whatever.

Over the years Flysurfer have produced a number of useful tutorial vids which i have linked from my website http://www.specialistkiteboarding.com/#!how-tos/c91a

These include self launching, landing, packing up and the different water relaunches.

good luck !

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby The Captain » Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:42 pm

Pre-inflating as much as possible really helps with side launches.

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby Bille » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:56 pm

Would this work ?

Kinda looks nearly like the way i launched my old Peter Lynn Venom .

I would sand bag the wind-ward tip ; then place my bar & lines at a 45-deg
to the kite.
Then i used one of these things. to per-inflate it to near full. Launching will
now give it FULL Power , because the cells are filled to near max.

It's a 12-v boat bilge blower, on 3 LIPO battery, and an 8 inch PVC extension
on the air-exit end ; just stick it in any zipper.

https://www.google.com/search?q=boat+bi ... CAgQ_AUoAw

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby PC814 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:10 pm

Like others have said, I've found the hot launch to work best. It's really important to not let the kite fly up to the zenith until it is fully inflated. I always pull on the front lines just enough to get the kite off the ground, then let the kite hang 5-10 feet off the ground by back stalling with the brake-handle (connected to the back lines) until it is fully inflated. Once inflated, slowly release the brake-handle let it come up to the zenith, but be ready to get dragged downwind as it goes up. If you pull on your front lines as the kite flies up to the zenith you can reduce how much the kite drags you downwind.

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Re: Chrono Launching Question

Postby plummet » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:36 pm

Bille wrote:Would this work ?

Kinda looks nearly like the way i launched my old Peter Lynn Venom .

I would sand bag the wind-ward tip ; then place my bar & lines at a 45-deg
to the kite.
Then i used one of these things. to per-inflate it to near full. Launching will
now give it FULL Power , because the cells are filled to near max.

It's a 12-v boat bilge blower, on 3 LIPO battery, and an 8 inch PVC extension
on the air-exit end ; just stick it in any zipper.

https://www.google.com/search?q=boat+bi ... CAgQ_AUoAw

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It would. But its not required. You can easily launch it completely uninflated once you have the technique.


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