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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby FredBGG » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:13 pm

JON MODICA wrote:The IKA claims dissatisfaction amongst riders..... yet I haven't heard of a tour rider currently complaining. I've only heard good things.....

Anyone??????
Yup.... isn't it interesting that this is the leading forum for kiteboarding..... there should be at least some complaints by the riders... or at least some discussion.

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby jats2k9 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:36 pm

Marc Jacobs is clearly frustrated at the judging criteria regarding big air competition. Check out his FB to read his post about it.

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby Toby » Sun Jul 19, 2015 5:53 pm

They don't participate in forums.

Every time judging is not in your favor riders will complain.
You will never have 100% happy riders at an event.

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby eree » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:12 pm

how could i ever care less?

does it make wind blow less?
does it make gear even more expensive?
does it make beaches less crowded?

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby flipper231 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:30 pm

I did not read everything and know squat about all this but who needs a tour then? Why not SSS-like events? Sam Light is highly regarded as a rider and is not on the tour... I think this is pretty bad for the riders.

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby alamos_kiter » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:33 pm

Haha, so Markus Schwendtner, the pole dance promoter, tries to piss with a dog which has a dick 1.000 times bigger than his own. I'm afraid he might drown in the attempt. :D

- Does Virgin need IKA? No. Everybody can make an event or a tour and call it "World Championship", that is completely free.
- Will the ISAF (International Sailing Federation) recognize Virgin events? Currently probably not, unless Virgin carve a deal themselves with the ISAF. IF Virgin is interested in that, which I doubt.
- Does Virgin need to have a tour recognized by ISAF? No. Look at the X-Games, and all of the Red Bull events. They showed the finger to the "Governing Bodies", put in serious money and made top notch media events. Because this is what they want: media. It's about marketing for their product.
- Can the ISAF exclude Virgin riders from their events? First they will have to bring up the money to organize events, and then they will try. But I take the racers will be the only ones who have a second thought about IKA - all this "official this and that sailing record" thingy, and maybe if IKA is able to push kite racing into Olympics.
- Will IKA be able to get kiting into the Olympics? I doubt it.

So. My conclusion is, Virgin will organize their kiting events freely in Red Bull manner. They have the money and the means to offer the riders a good event, serious prize money and professional media coverage.
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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby FredBGG » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:41 pm

Personally I could not care less about the competitions.
It's just another part of the "me too" copycat bullshit of the kiting industry.
The companies like a bunch of sheep copy each other .
They all have their team riders "pros" so to speak.
I wounded if any actually make a semi decent living.
What is worse is that they do absolutely nothing about access.
Their team members promote dangerous anti social riding.
Powered moves in inches of water.....
Boosting high near rocks....

For example you won't see any company promoting helmets.....
You barely see them in the competitions....

Who the hell needs them?

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby Toby » Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:59 pm

Jon, I also talked about riders about the new formats (freestyle), and the ones I talked to liked it.

The only complain I heard now was from Marc Jacobs about more risk in Big Air and we are at fighting of styles again. History repeats, when some think they are cooler than others. We know where this leads to.

I liked the way they judged the big air, it is open for different styles and a variety of tricks, what one want to see watching this. If it changes like Marc wants it, we will have a megaloop challenge. We know how much variety that is.

The only problem is, actually as always with judging, it leaves a lot of room for judges to judge.
And then there will always be riders unhappy.

Let's see what happens, but I have the feeling, things will be changed and the sport looses again, by being boring without any variation.

I do hope someone steps up and makes things completely different. Pay riders money to show up and make a show, not to ride and have to win, to make money. I hoped Virgin would have been the one to do it, but unfortunately nothing new there. Sad, what a big chance they have missed.

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby Pedro Marcos » Sun Jul 19, 2015 8:43 pm

Not surprised at all, i actually think PKRA "settled" with IKA for way longer then i expected.

Riders will always go to the biggest prize polls and where they consider the judging is "more or less" fair... remember KPWT ?

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Re: IKA terminates agreement with PKRA

Postby JON MODICA » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:57 am

Toby- Thanks for your comments. Good to hear that very few are complaining.

For everyone who "doesn't care":

I understand, I honestly don't care who wins on the tour... nor do I follow events....

What you should care about (what I care about) is that media, press...etc all contribute to the sports growth which has a HUGE impact on brands which impacts gear.

I want the best gear possible and want brands to keep innovating.... don't you?

Thanks why you should care! (in my opinion)

-Jon


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