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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby FabsPH » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:24 am

In Memory of Larry "Waves"
my new LARRYfied Vader Hader :-)
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for some reason I didn't take pic of bottom and channels
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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby FabsPH » Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:03 am

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Re: Firewire Vader

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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby K-Roy » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:48 pm

Hello All,

I need some advise on my next Kite SB.
I have a OR. Duke and I really like it. (its my first SB.)
How ever as Im getting into directional riding more and more I have started to look for a second board...
Can anyone give me advice which board would be ideal as a new adition?

My home spot is a lake with choppy onshore and gusty wind.
I also kite around Cumbuco and Rhodos (Prasso)
I was thinking to get the Firewire Vader (or VG?)
Also looking at SS Celeritas

Thx. for the advice
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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby magic%20Ed » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:32 am

Vader is better at eating chop then Vanguard, so go for the Vader.

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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby K-Roy » Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:41 pm

Thx Magic Ed!

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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby StanCan » Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:21 pm

Hey K-Roy,
I used to have a Vanguard and currently ride a Vader - they're both great boards.
While I agree with the first part of magic Ed's statement (Vader is better in chop - yes, because it has more rocker), I'm not sure that I would come to the same conclusion about going with that board.
Because the the Vanguard has less rocker than the Vader, it goes upwind better, has better light wind performance, and has better speed on mushy wind swell.
My recommendation is if you're kiting in lighter winds and/or flatter water - go with the Vanguard. If stronger winds and/or peakier swell - go with the Vader.

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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby TomW » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:14 pm

I have not ridden a vanguard, Vader or Evo from Tomo. But I made a copy of an Evo, and I ride shitty chop and wind waves up to 2 m. It's great board. I have 2011 Celeritas, 200 sessions, and Spacepickel, 60 sessions Evo copy, 60 sessions, wayyyyyy better.

Thing is, what's wrong withvthem Duke? Or you just experimental?
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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby TomW » Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:18 pm

Hej Fabs , could you post foto of your fin placement?
My quad front and rears are close together longitudinal. Interested in what you feel turning quickness is on your board in relation to this design element.

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Re: Firewire Vader

Postby K-Roy » Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:24 pm

StanCan wrote:Hey K-Roy,
I used to have a Vanguard and currently ride a Vader - they're both great boards.
While I agree with the first part of magic Ed's statement (Vader is better in chop - yes, because it has more rocker), I'm not sure that I would come to the same conclusion about going with that board.
Because the the Vanguard has less rocker than the Vader, it goes upwind better, has better light wind performance, and has better speed on mushy wind swell.
My recommendation is if you're kiting in lighter winds and/or flatter water - go with the Vanguard. If stronger winds and/or peakier swell - go with the Vader.
Thanks StanCan!
I was thinking the same, only I have the Duke and I think that would be closer to the VG.
As a next board I was thinking on something I can enjoy in bigger surf as well.
Can you recomend on the size? (Vader)
Im170 pound and 5'7

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Roy


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