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I could be convinced. There is no woo monthly subscription so hard to get constant money inflow and to get salaries paid. And nobody would report this with long time established kiteforum account.

exWOO wrote:Normally, I would state that WOO surely must be better since I’ve worked on its software. But as a WOO ex-worker that has been unpaid for a couple of months of their work, I guess it’s safer to go with the other guys device. If a company doesn’t pay their people, it might mean they are not going to survive much longer.
All the best,
Concerned ex-WOO

Ouch! Hardware is tough to make money on and I hope they turn things around. All good guys.

exWOO wrote:Normally, I would state that WOO surely must be better since I’ve worked on its software. But as a WOO ex-worker that has been unpaid for a couple of months of their work, I guess it’s safer to go with the other guys device. If a company doesn’t pay their people, it might mean they are not going to survive much longer.
All the best,
Concerned ex-WOO

No wonder about this ! Two of my woo broken, unresponsive customer service (had to escalate it to social media to get an answer), leaderboard on my local spot being taken over by a guy doing a 14m jump in 16 knots ....

Seems the future not bright for woo...

16 kts gusting to 20........on a foilboard with a guy that knows wat he is doing......every day!!

flysurfing wrote:

exWOO wrote:Normally, I would state that WOO surely must be better since I’ve worked on its software. But as a WOO ex-worker that has been unpaid for a couple of months of their work, I guess it’s safer to go with the other guys device. If a company doesn’t pay their people, it might mean they are not going to survive much longer.
All the best,
Concerned ex-WOO

No wonder about this ! Two of my woo broken, unresponsive customer service (had to escalate it to social media to get an answer), leaderboard on my local spot being taken over by a guy doing a 14m jump in 16 knots ....

Seems the future not bright for woo...

New new hashtag system they have seems like it'll solve that sort of thing, so you can have #spot-spring-2017 or something so the bullshit jumps get filtered out.

But there really needs to be an open source site that all these devices can post to.

I bought the Trace:

http://www.traceup.com/

So far pretty happy with it

Anybody compare results among all three? Woo, Xensr and Trace?

I'll probably wait until Trace gets a little more of a track record before buying one of the three.

Don

there are actually 4 devices on the market now (WOO, Trace, Xensr,PIQ)
Trace does ok in mild conditions, however it looses 30% of jumps in higher wind conditions.
This was brought up many times on their "closed" FB group. The response form dev was that they filter out "suspicious" jumps, like jumps over 6 seconds, etc.. Because their devs don't believe it is physically possible to jump 20m or have 8 sec hangtime..
Originally they had some 20 meter / 3.3 seconds jumps in their leader-boards and people complained that it was not physically possible.. so their approach was to just put some thresholds.. Anyway.. it did not looks like there were making any progress with the software, so I just returned the unit back to them..
On the woo, mine just died a few days ago (after about 8 months / 100 sessions).. I submitted a long form (they request pics, videos, etc) and got response on the next business day.. Looks like they are going to replace it.. Seems like a normal customer service to me..
One last thing, woo is the only kite specific sensor, made by kite surfers.. Other 3 were started as something else (surf, golf, ski) and added kite-surfing to expand sales..

Just checking in if anyone has received the newer (2017?) Xensr? I wanted to purchase one, but they weren't ready to ship in time for a trip in December 2016. I saw the 'preorder' status keep getting pushed back every month, and email inquiry about current shipping dates merely stated that they are 'working to get all preorders fulfilled', then will have a better idea of shipping date (the response email was quick at least). vaporware? (maybe we need a new phrase for that now that vaporware is now an actual product category). How long between 'pre-ordering' and receiving?

Six months later I ended up getting a Trace, which is pretty good, but not exactly oriented towards kiters even when you select kiting as the activity. I do like the gps data overlay, with the clickthrough for each tack (wave) with its registered events.

We got a request from Xensr to repeat the test with the new version late 2016. Of course we wanted that. Up until now we still are waiting for the hardware to be able to test it.
Dave
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