Gear advice for very light winds (around 7-10 knots)

[fogmeister]

this a foil session by a foiler in about 7 to 10 knots..........

[fogmeister]

this rider is typically on a 12m in these winds but decided to experiment with the 8 diablo.........from what i am hearing the diablo is the lightest kite on the market so pairs well with a foil in super light.

[PullStrings]

WOW the wind must be extra extra extra dense to be able to use a 8 sqm ram air in just 7-10 knots of wind

[fogmeister]

........whatever works for the day

[matth]

No one is saying its impossible to ride in 8mph, we are saying its a waste of time. Been there, 17m flite, litewave wing , Dialer surfboard

You say you've been there, but your gear is a door board and a surfboard. Try a foil.

Or don't. I don't care how much wind you ride in. But stop knocking other people's experience when you have no idea what you're talking about.

What part of "no one is saying its impossible to ride in 8mph" are you confused by? If you enjoy it, god bless you, have a blast


This is my first response to the OP question.

"Not much happens in 7 to 10knots IMO. Lots of skill, lots of patience, expensive specialized kites , foils, monster TT, or race boards needed. And after all that you will basically be mowing the lawn"....

What part do you disagree with? Sounds like good advice to a noob on lake with shit wind to me...

[Peter_Frank]

No one is saying its impossible to ride in 8mph, we are saying its a waste of time. Been there, 17m flite, litewave wing , Dialer surfboard

You say you've been there, but your gear is a door board and a surfboard. Try a foil.

Or don't. I don't care how much wind you ride in. But stop knocking other people's experience when you have no idea what you're talking about.

What part of "no one is saying its impossible to ride in 8mph" are you confused by? If you enjoy it, god bless you, have a blast


This is my first response to the OP question.

"Not much happens in 7 to 10knots IMO. Lots of skill, lots of patience, expensive specialized kites , foils, monster TT, or race boards needed. And after all that you will basically be mowing the lawn"....

What part do you disagree with? Sounds like good advice to a noob on lake with shit wind to me...

Just came across this thread again...

Dylan and Fogmeister and others are spot on

matth, you go wrong when you apparently put hydrofoils into the same group as other light wind boards like big doors and raceboards.
Let alone you write this, shows that you have no idea what its all about

Its the classic mistake we see over and over, and it is unfortunately impossible to tell what its like to those who dont know nothing because they "think" they know what its like, without having learned themeselves

An 8m2 Diablo in 7-10 knots ?
Of course that is possible, in fact easy in the upper end...
You will most likely not be able to start when only 7, but if up and riding you might be able to continue riding


Peter

[PullStrings]

matth, you go wrong when you apparently put hydrofoils into the same group as other light wind boards like big doors and raceboards.
Let alone you write this, shows that you have no idea what its all about Peter

I regrettably disagree with you Pete and definitely agree with matth
Did you miss where he says that he has been watching foilers's low end of riding for past 2 years ?
There is no drastic difference really of doing better when they do go to the lowest wind 6 to 7 knots they need big ass kites just like everybody else
If all you own is a 12-13 tube or 10-11 ram air and it is a "hot summer" day you will not be able to go unless it is minimum 10 knots on a foilboard from what i have seen
Low end drops to 9kn in winter / spring / fall from what i have seen

[matth]

You say you've been there, but your gear is a door board and a surfboard. Try a foil.

Or don't. I don't care how much wind you ride in. But stop knocking other people's experience when you have no idea what you're talking about.

What part of "no one is saying its impossible to ride in 8mph" are you confused by? If you enjoy it, god bless you, have a blast


This is my first response to the OP question.

"Not much happens in 7 to 10knots IMO. Lots of skill, lots of patience, expensive specialized kites , foils, monster TT, or race boards needed. And after all that you will basically be mowing the lawn"....





What part do you disagree with? Sounds like good advice to a noob on lake with shit wind to me...

Just came across this thread again...

Dylan and Fogmeister and others are spot on

matth, you go wrong when you apparently put hydrofoils into the same group as other light wind boards like big doors and raceboards.
Let alone you write this, shows that you have no idea what its all about

Its the classic mistake we see over and over, and it is unfortunately impossible to tell what its like to those who dont know nothing because they "think" they know what its like, without having learned themeselves

An 8m2 Diablo in 7-10 knots ?
Of course that is possible, in fact easy in the upper end...
You will most likely not be able to start when only 7, but if up and riding you might be able to continue riding


Peter

Are you reading what I wrote? I did not say its impossible. Again, Lots of skill, lots of patience , expensive specialized kites, FOILS, monster TT, or race boards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knock yourself out, have a blast. I'm glad you enjoy it...


And I do understand that foils are a different animal, Thank you!. But people also ride sub 10 conditions on Monster TT, race boards, 21m flysurfers, 19m cores and so on.

[Peter_Frank]

It is not about whether it is possible or not, it is about hydrofoils being a very different kind of animal NOT to be compared with other light wind options.

As with the latter I agree with you, mostly moving the lawn and not fun at all eventhough just possible.

But the part where we disagree with you, is that you put hydrofoils and other boards in the same category

It is not about us having fun, we could just let it rest and let the OP find another sport or hobby as so many make the classic moving the lawn comments, without knowing what they are talking about.
Trying to help those who don't know (which is almost everyone), when they ask a serious question, as you CAN not know before you have learned foiling

Peter

[foilholio]

Hydrofoils are in a different league when it comes to performance, I would say they are about 2x the best non-hydrofoil boards and about 3to4x the performance of most boards. Mowing the lawn is most all that is going to happen below 5knots, some surfing would be possible but I would think only with tension in the lines like upwind etc. If mowing or cruising is interesting and it can be, doing it in such light winds is probably the most fun time to do it. With flat, clear, large, open, uncrowded spaces of water it can be really enjoyable to just relax and take it in.

Just reading the OPs post it would seem he is budget conscious, some thing like an Ultralight Pansh kite would get him out in those winds for a third or less of the cost of a hydrofoil. An A15 18m or Aurora2 19m or 22m would be perfect. If he want to go a hydrofoil a kite in 12meter would be better.