FYI, my thoughts were just confirmed - the new DC-201/301/401 series uses SK99Mossy 757 wrote:Sk99 is the state of the art right now. The Liros DC series is sk75. Not saying it's not good, but if quality is your goal you can't beat sk99 dyneema.dracop wrote:lol yeah but I need a group for that!
Right now I gots nobody.
Also, I am less interested in cheap line and more interested in high quality line at the lowest cost. I wish to try this Liros material - they have a 1.6mm 540 daN version of the DC-401 that Core is using (Core chose something lighter). Im thinking a 100m spool for my flying lines and a 100m spool of a lighter weight for my steering lines. Anyone interested in either ?
Thank you for those links and for all the research you did. I read thru all of it, you appear to have come to the same conclusions I came to based upon the same lines of reasoning. I chose a different retailer based out of GER vs England.
dracop i'm not really sure I understand. You can buy amsteel blue dyneema sk78 1/8th inch (that's 3mm) at pretty much any place in the usa this is 2,500 pound breaking strength. Why aren't you using that for your center line? That's definitely strong enough. Then you want to make a couple splices (or pay someone to splice it for you). 3mm is about the same size as a small leader line. I wouldn't use any normal kite line for the Y part of a line. Kite line is pretty much by definition something that is under 1.8mm in width, so you aren't going to get much above 800 pounds breaking strength from it even with sk78 or sk99. Anyway that's what I would use and it's easy to buy, unlike kiteboarding line which can be tricky to source and buy retail. If I were to go with kite line or q-power I would double or triple it for the Y and that works but it's not very pretty looking. If you are in south africa then you can't get amsteel blue but there's some other sailing rope that does the exact same thing I forget where you get it from.dracop wrote:Q-Power Pro looks interesting but again, at 275 kg breaking strength, I want something stronger for that lower Y section. I do understand what they say about the tight weave not letting in foreign material - it would be a dream if they updated their lines with the newer sk-99 and went for a heavier duty version. Shame, I contacted kiteboarding.com but thery never responded, as is I am importing in two spools of Liros dc-401/301 and will have to pay someone on Maui to finish my lines.
Who and how much?dracop wrote: I chose a different retailer based out of GER
This is crazy, how can they sell such a thing? They are halving the front line strength! You want every component to be ATLEAST as strong as each other, i.e 240kg front lines equals 480kg single line section. 240kg sounds weak even for the front lines for what you are doing. I would dump the whole Y thing and just use a V.dracop wrote:The kite manufacturer simply uses standard dyneema with a 240kg breaking strength and identical to the steering and upper Y section lines for that lower Y section and it does work for a time.
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