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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby Teabageppo » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:36 am

Yeh fair enough...just trying to get a handle on the value of your opinion that's all.

I've been up and close with the bar. Iron hearts an iron heart - 8 years running lol. Rides just like a normal bar. It's not a game changer that's for sure lol. But a very very nice piece of equipment if you can afford it or really want one.

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby Dan-at-North » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:43 pm

Sorry- Just back to the office after being gone a few days and saw there's a bit of misinformation on here regarding the new Iron Heart...

For those who haven't used it, the release and reset is identical to the Iron Heart we've been using with success for the last 8 or so years. For the record there is another major brand now licensing the Iron Heart for use on their bars and there are other brands in discussions to do the same in the future so I feel it's safe to say that resetting isn't generally considered very difficult with any Iron Heart.

Here is a photo of the new Iron Heart V (black) next to the Iron Heart IV (blue) that we've been using for years.
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Any NKB retailer should be very well acquainted with the mechanism by now so I find reports that one is being stymied by it to be dubious at best.

The only changes to the Iron Heart V are:
1. The use of the ceramic bearings to allow the auto-unwinding mechanism to spin with very little friction and
2. the shape of the suicide ring/"U" on the chicken loop. By fitting snugly into the metal "U" the suicide ring is kept from hanging down to the middle of the chicken loop, making rehooking after an unhooked maneuver a little easier.
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It is possible that resetting the new iron heart with the new suicide ring in suicide mode may be a bit more difficult for a beginner because the ring is held so close to the release mechanism, but if you have difficulty with this movement you're probably a beginner and will probably not be using the suicide mode anyway. Again, in standard mode, resetting the new Iron Heart is as simple as it's been on every Iron Heart for the past 8 or so years.

If anyone has any questions on this or anything else (or needs more photos of anything) please let me know.

-Dan

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby NorCalNomad » Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:49 pm

cor wrote:
iriejohn wrote:1. The trim adjuster requires you to remove your hand from the bar to either increase or to decrease trim. One thing when underpowered but quite another when overpowered.
How is this different from a clamcleat adjuster? You have to remove your hand as well, don't you?
Maybe he does it with his teeth? :roll: :lol:

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby Lokihel » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:15 am

NorCalNomad wrote:
cor wrote:
iriejohn wrote:1. The trim adjuster requires you to remove your hand from the bar to either increase or to decrease trim. One thing when underpowered but quite another when overpowered.
How is this different from a clamcleat adjuster? You have to remove your hand as well, don't you?
Maybe he does it with his teeth? :roll: :lol:
You're telling me most people pulling with their hand, when your mouth is (usually, unless you're drinking cocktails from all the hangtime you get from your Evo) available and already closer?

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby NorCalNomad » Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:32 pm

Lokihel wrote:
NorCalNomad wrote:
cor wrote:
How is this different from a clamcleat adjuster? You have to remove your hand as well, don't you?
Maybe he does it with his teeth? :roll: :lol:
You're telling me most people pulling with their hand, when your mouth is (usually, unless you're drinking cocktails from all the hangtime you get from your Evo) available and already closer?
Well yeah! It's the only thing left after my other hand is busy feeding my chicken :rollgrin:

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby bri7 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:01 pm

What I don't get with this bar is that in an overpowered situation the bar encourages the user to reach and deal with a system at at the end of the bar which if not dealt with 100 % correctly (say for example the user grabs the end of the bar) that could potentially lead to initiating a kite loop situation. Say for example this scenario happens out the water on a beach then also then into a lofting scenario.

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby iriejohn » Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:05 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
cor wrote:
iriejohn wrote:1. The trim adjuster requires you to remove your hand from the bar to either increase or to decrease trim. One thing when underpowered but quite another when overpowered.
How is this different from a clamcleat adjuster? You have to remove your hand as well, don't you?
Maybe he does it with his teeth? :roll: :lol:
It is different because firstly a clam cleat adjuster is in direct line of sight on the centre line itself rather than on the end of the bar and is therefore less likely to disturb steering, and secondly with a clamcleat non-trivial trim changes can be made significantly faster than turning an unergonomically positioned* 'clicker' on the outside end of a bar through multiple 180 degree increments.

* Especially when using an outstretched arm when reaching the upper limit of throw.
bri7 wrote:What I don't get with this bar is that in an overpowered situation the bar encourages the user to reach and deal with a system at at the end of the bar which if not dealt with 100 % correctly (say for example the user grabs the end of the bar) that could potentially lead to initiating a kite loop situation. Say for example this scenario happens out the water on a beach then also then into a lofting scenario.
Agreed.

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby holy_grabrail » Sat Sep 17, 2016 2:47 am

Just push that Button. No need for a kiteloop

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby NorCalNomad » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:55 am

iriejohn wrote: * Especially when using an outstretched arm when reaching the upper limit of throw.
Why would your bar be at the outer reaches of the throw when you're trying to power it up? The button depowers, the twist powers up.

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Re: North Click Bar Official Unofficial Thread

Postby Do-it » Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:56 am

holy_grabrail wrote:Just push that Button. No need for a kiteloop
Always a need for a kiteloop.


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