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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby topmick » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:08 pm

Thanks for posting Felix.

IMO, the Evo could make a great light wind or heavyweights goto board.

But I still have not got to test one yet.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby Onda » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:03 am

I have the Vader 5.3 and the Evo 5.1 and can 100% acknowledge the comments below.
Vader is much more agile and tighter turning than the Evo, with effortless turning. Evo has better low end performance and catches very small waves more easily with better float.
To do snappy turns with the Evo needs much more force / effort than with the Vader.
Upwind performance of the Evo (with quad fins) is absolutely sick. When I first rode the Evo, I constantly choked my kite by (unintentionally) going upwind so hard. It took me about half an hour to realize this. This really helps when riding at spots with strong downwind current (e.g. North Sea).

airsurfer wrote:
topmick wrote:A while back, I asked Felix about the Vader/Evo.
His response was...
Vader = Sports car
Evo = Cadillac
It would be interesting to hear from him to see if he has anymore time on the Evo & if his opinion has changed any.
I'm getting a demo board next week to see for myself.
Exactly my feeling !

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby WMFG » Wed Jan 04, 2017 3:11 pm

Onda wrote:I have the Vader 5.3 and the Evo 5.1 and can 100% acknowledge the comments below.
Vader is much more agile and tighter turning than the Evo, with effortless turning. Evo has better low end performance and catches very small waves more easily with better float.
To do snappy turns with the Evo needs much more force / effort than with the Vader.
Upwind performance of the Evo (with quad fins) is absolutely sick. When I first rode the Evo, I constantly choked my kite by (unintentionally) going upwind so hard. It took me about half an hour to realize this. This really helps when riding at spots with strong downwind current (e.g. North Sea).

airsurfer wrote:
topmick wrote:A while back, I asked Felix about the Vader/Evo.
His response was...
Vader = Sports car
Evo = Cadillac
It would be interesting to hear from him to see if he has anymore time on the Evo & if his opinion has changed any.
I'm getting a demo board next week to see for myself.
Exactly my feeling !

Great Post Onda, thanks.

Would you say overall 5.3 Vader is equivalent sized to 5.1 Evo?

Thanks

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby Onda » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:22 pm

The "felt" size of the Evo 5.1 is smaller than the 5.3 Vader. You have more space / length on the deck to move around on the Vader. When jumping, the Evo feels smaller as well. However, the Vader is the more agile of the two. The Evo is more stable than the Vader as it is less sensitive to edging.
I guess that Vader 5.1 and Evo 5.1 is a better pairing than my combination. Vader 5.1 is still large enough for my 75 kg and will probably be super-reactive / snappy and suitable for a lot of pull from the kite (high winds), while the Evo 5.1 is a perfect low-wind surfboard.
Anyone fancies to swap his 5.1 Vader with my 5.3? :naughty:

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby martino86 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:06 am

Hi guys

What lowend would you say is realistic using a 4'10 Evo and my 12m Ozone Enduro? I'm 62kg.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby knotwindy » Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm

Not sure this will help but
4'10" VADER 10m Enduro 76 kg. I can ride and stay up wind in 14 but not much fun so I would guess for you it would be 11-12.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby topmick » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:49 pm

Interesting info I was given yesterday, as I'm looking for a light wind & mushy wave board....Think I'll order a 5'1

Vader allows you to get more aggressive and holds rail a lot better then the Evo, the evo feels like a lot more board under your feet, floats on top of the water like nothing I've felt and is more of a back foot slide the tail around type of riding. Basically I would ride the Vader in bigger and good surf and the evo in lighter wind and mushy surf.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby topmick » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:34 am

Onda wrote: I guess that Vader 5.1 and Evo 5.1 is a better pairing than my combination. Vader 5.1 is still large enough for my 75 kg and will probably be super-reactive / snappy and suitable for a lot of pull from the kite (high winds), while the Evo 5.1 is a perfect low-wind surfboard. :naughty:
So Onda, do you think 5'1 Evo is correct size for 75kg Kiter ?
There is a big drop in volume to the next size down & I'm looking for a light wind board.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby Onda » Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:34 pm

Hi topmick,
if you´re looking for a (relative) light wind board, I´d go for the 5.1 Evo (I have the same weight). The 4.10 would be fine (or even perfect!) for "normal" days, but probably would need a bit more wind.

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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Postby NorCalNomad » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:15 pm

martino86 wrote:Hi guys

What lowend would you say is realistic using a 4'10 Evo and my 12m Ozone Enduro? I'm 62kg.
Depends how good you are at low wind kiting. Go to a beach that is long and find out :thumb:


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