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Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:34 pm
by cellfred
Hey Guys,

I found all the comparisons between Evo, Vader and Vanguard quite interesting.

But here's the catch: I ride an older Firewire Hellfire in 5'8 usually with quad fins. I clock in at around 100kg and ride mainly northern European chaos waves.

Anyone got a word of comparison between my current setup and especially the Evo?

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:14 pm
by NorCalNomad
Jan:) wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:16 am
I got a Vader in Helium tech.
Weight is pretty insane for a kiteboard.

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No dents after 10 sessions or so.
So it seems to hold up to my abuse.
Are you doing strapless airs?

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:27 pm
by effisk
Jan:) wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:16 am
I got a Vader in Helium tech.
Weight is pretty insane for a kiteboard.

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No dents after 10 sessions or so.
So it seems to hold up to my abuse.
what size is that? I weighed my 5'1 out of the box at 2.835kg

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:46 pm
by topmick
I weighed my 5'3 Hevo & same size demo Evo in FST back to back.
HEVO was only a slightly lighter, no huge weight difference.

Been surfing/kiting my 5'3 for 6 months now & it still looks as new.

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:58 am
by Jan:)
NorCalNomad wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:14 pm
Are you doing strapless airs?
Yeah, even had some pretty bad landings on this one.
Time will tell how well thay last.
effisk wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:27 pm
what size is that? I weighed my 5'1 out of the box at 2.835kg
5'1

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am
by SonnyRider
I recently got myself a 5'3" EVO in Helium. I didn't bother weighing it, I'm anal, but not that anal.

I'm 96kgs and not a fantastic rider, but I have to say, this board is pretty damn good at my local, which is mostly wind blown waves, mid height. A lot of chop, which the EVO just smooths out.
Took a couple of sessions to get the feel of it. My previous board is an Airush Converse 6'1" and found it lacked a little in lighter winds. It's lovely in real waves, and loves bigger winds.
I got the EVO for winds the Converse wouldn't work for me, eg, sub 23kts.

Have had three sessions out on the EVO, in winds from mid teens to mid 20's and it's just so nice, it doesn't stall as easily as the Converse in those lower winds. Much less pearling. = Happy days.
I let another guy at my local have a go on it, he came back frothing, saying "that's the best strapless board I've ever ridden" (I have to agree) and "I have never said that about any other board". He liked it so much he would have bought one there and then.

I'm currently using cheap plastic fins, bought a 5 fin pack setup, because I wasn't sure what I wanted. I'm used to tri fins, so have set it up like that so far. I will probably try quad soon, but I have to admit, this board is sublime so far. It carves the bottom turn so tight, I've yet to get any real top turns in on it.


I can see why they very rarely come up second hand.

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:16 pm
by magnusod
SonnyRider wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am
I recently got myself a 5'3" EVO in Helium. I didn't bother weighing it, I'm anal, but not that anal.

I'm 96kgs and not a fantastic rider, but I have to say, this board is pretty damn good at my local, which is mostly wind blown waves, mid height. A lot of chop, which the EVO just smooths out.
Took a couple of sessions to get the feel of it. My previous board is an Airush Converse 6'1" and found it lacked a little in lighter winds. It's lovely in real waves, and loves bigger winds.
I got the EVO for winds the Converse wouldn't work for me, eg, sub 23kts.

Have had three sessions out on the EVO, in winds from mid teens to mid 20's and it's just so nice, it doesn't stall as easily as the Converse in those lower winds. Much less pearling. = Happy days.
I let another guy at my local have a go on it, he came back frothing, saying "that's the best strapless board I've ever ridden" (I have to agree) and "I have never said that about any other board". He liked it so much he would have bought one there and then.

I'm currently using cheap plastic fins, bought a 5 fin pack setup, because I wasn't sure what I wanted. I'm used to tri fins, so have set it up like that so far. I will probably try quad soon, but I have to admit, this board is sublime so far. It carves the bottom turn so tight, I've yet to get any real top turns in on it.


I can see why they very rarely come up second hand.
Sonny, as you're almost only on Airush gear, did you ever test ride the Cypher and if so how do you rate that board compared to the Evo? I had a test ride on the 2016 Cypher 5'4 and was quite impressed by its light wind capabilities even at my weight being 95 kgs.
I've also been looking at a board for sub 20 knots and mushier waves. Been reading a lot of great reviews about the Evo but never had a chance to try it. Sort of choosing between the Evo and Cypher, and the Cypher mainly due to that there are some really good deals on that board.

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:36 pm
by Jan:)
SonnyRider wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am
I recently got myself a 5'3" EVO in Helium. I didn't bother weighing it, I'm anal, but not that anal.
I made it a habit of weighing all my boards when they are new and writing the numbers down.
It is the only way to know if your board has taken on water after a ding.

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:38 pm
by SonnyRider
magnusod wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:16 pm

Sonny, as you're almost only on Airush gear, did you ever test ride the Cypher and if so how do you rate that board compared to the Evo? I had a test ride on the 2016 Cypher 5'4 and was quite impressed by its light wind capabilities even at my weight being 95 kgs.
I've also been looking at a board for sub 20 knots and mushier waves. Been reading a lot of great reviews about the Evo but never had a chance to try it. Sort of choosing between the Evo and Cypher, and the Cypher mainly due to that there are some really good deals on that board.
Hi, no, never had a Cypher. I used to have a Chop top about three years ago, but didn't get on with it. I just didn't feel comfortable on it. So sold it on 2yrs ago

I was originally looking for a good all round board when I got the Converse. I was reliably informed the Converse I bought was one of the last well made strong boards. Plus it turns better than the rest. Don't get me wrong, it is a fantastic board, but I struggle with winds lighter than 20mph on it, it's great from 23. Had it out in mid 30's, more wind the better it gets. Been out in overhead waves with it too. I do like it, I like it alot.

I had been tempted by the other Airush boards. The pricing is good, but, when I was looking for sub 20 & mush, I was told they (I can't remember if it was the Cypher or the Compact) were 'corky'. This put me off, corky is not what I was looking for. Makes them a bitch to hold down when it picks up in my limited experience. (Been riding strapless for the past 18mths)
That said, I have had a session on the EVO when the wind went silly gusty/strong when I was out, that was just horrible, as to be expected when the board is way too big for the wind. I shortly came in after trying to ride it out and changed to a TT. I was on my 9. The wind did calm down, and I went back out on the EVO.

I was always tempted/interested in the MPH boards. Having spoke with a couple of people and how much they liked them. I really wanted a demo, but, nothing here in the UK. After much deliberation and finding out as much info as I could, I bit the bullet and took a punt on the EVO.

I'm glad I did.

If you liked the Cypher, then go with that. But, there will always be the what 'if scenario'. But, sorry, I can't help you because I've not tried one.

Re: FireWire Evo KiteSurfBoard

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:39 pm
by SonnyRider
Jan:) wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 12:36 pm
SonnyRider wrote:
Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:02 am
I recently got myself a 5'3" EVO in Helium. I didn't bother weighing it, I'm anal, but not that anal.
I made it a habit of weighing all my boards when they are new and writing the numbers down.
It is the only way to know if your board has taken on water after a ding.
Ah, yes, that IS a valid point. :oops: I shall have to weigh mine now :lol: