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Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:32 am
by Bletti
pikovsg wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 2:27 am
@Mitaka - quite a bit of truth to what you are saying, but in winds that light, weight is almost everything. Design of kite/ratio can help a tiny, but weight triumphs everything. The Cloud 13.4D will fly better in less wind than the 15m Ultra. That's a fact - I tried it. However, based on a beach test and the TT session, I think Ultra has more power. Which could man if you fly it well, it gets you down lower. Will have to test it.

The Cloud is about 0.5lbs lighter. Curious about the 12m Ultra - that one may stay in less air than the Cloud due to weight and the added strut design.
The 13.4m cloud is ~1lb (0.5 kg) lighter than the 12m ultra, or 1.7lbs lighter than an equivalent sized 13.4 ultra. I agree that profile is important, but when the wind is super light to the point the kite is barely hanging in the air, a kite that's 33% heavier won't respond or stay in the air as well.

Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:27 pm
by Wielandt
Hi guys

Recently got myself a 9 and a 12 m Airush Ultra's. I use them for foiling and can compare them with LF Solos and Storm Voyager and Gong, both struttless in the same sizes.

When I started out foiling 2-3 years ago I bought LF Solo's because they where light and easy to relaunch. Before that I used Naish Draft's for TT and jumping.

The solo's did the job, but I wanted something even ligther and bought the Voyager/Gong. Those felt way lighter to foil than the Solo and just as easy to relaunch. The strutless are IMO more unstable when the wind picks up and you get overpowered, but it's amazing in how light wind you can fly them. IMO there are a noticeable different between the Solo and the struttless in marginal low wind. I never experienced the struttless fall out of the sky, no matter how little wind there was. All in all the Solo,s felt heavy compared to the struttless.

The Ultras are like the struttless very easy to handle in next to no wind. I have the same secure feeling that they stay up there no matter what....Compared to the struttless I feel that the Ultra reacts a bit faster when looping etc. and also drift better. For sure the Ultra are more stable when a bit overpowered....

Soo my currently quiver is 15 m Voyager, for the "no" wind days, 12 and 9 ultras for in between and 6.5 Solo for +16 knots.

Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:07 pm
by Brian H
That's a nice quiver , now can you compare the 12 ultra to the 15 storm .

Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:47 am
by Mitaka
@Pikovsg & Bletti
In my statement I was talking generally and not specifically about 13.4 Cloud vs 12m Airush Ultra. :)

Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:39 pm
by abel
Wielandt wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:27 pm
Hi guys

Recently got myself a 9 and a 12 m Airush Ultra's. I use them for foiling and can compare them with LF Solos and Storm Voyager and Gong, both struttless in the same sizes.

When I started out foiling 2-3 years ago I bought LF Solo's because they where light and easy to relaunch. Before that I used Naish Draft's for TT and jumping.

The solo's did the job, but I wanted something even ligther and bought the Voyager/Gong. Those felt way lighter to foil than the Solo and just as easy to relaunch. The strutless are IMO more unstable when the wind picks up and you get overpowered, but it's amazing in how light wind you can fly them. IMO there are a noticeable different between the Solo and the struttless in marginal low wind. I never experienced the struttless fall out of the sky, no matter how little wind there was. All in all the Solo,s felt heavy compared to the struttless.

The Ultras are like the struttless very easy to handle in next to no wind. I have the same secure feeling that they stay up there no matter what....Compared to the struttless I feel that the Ultra reacts a bit faster when looping etc. and also drift better. For sure the Ultra are more stable when a bit overpowered....

Soo my currently quiver is 15 m Voyager, for the "no" wind days, 12 and 9 ultras for in between and 6.5 Solo for +16 knots.
Hey Wielant,
Can you please elaborate more on the comparison between the 12 Solo and the 12 Ultra

Re: Airush Ultra: one strut kite that meets expectations of a ram air lover

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:52 pm
by pikovsg
Tested the Ultra 15 on a calm day. Decided to keep the 13.4 Cloud D.