downunder wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:16 amHi Gigi,
the problem is not a 'bungee webbing' or retainer. We know that this is there for a reason.
The problem is a bladder. You know well that the bladder end on almost all brands is sealed well before it ends and that sealed excess is used in securing the bladder in place. Sealed excess can't be pumped, so it can't be put on pressure resulting in tear or thinning (stretching), the bladder like this retainer does!!!
I can take a micrometer and show that bladder is thinner where the retainer is, due to tear. Or do this, put a watch on your hand and tighten it, how does it feel after a few hours? Than repeat the next day...Over some time your skin would be thinner, damaged by a watch strap.
If Ozone seals the bladder at the ends for about 10-20cm (as you say) and that excess is used around the 'bungee webbing', than it would be heaps better. There is absolutely no point in having a bladder put on pressure after the retainer. The retainer keeps the bladder in place when NOT pumped. Not the opposite.
And because of that, sand and salt inside the bladder can make a pin hole on exactly that place on a pic's, as OP reported.
Not a brainer, really.
Yeah, my 1000 post
Jelle_vw wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:34 amTo bad I cannot reach Ozone for some feedback, there view on this question.
Checked my 10m yesterday and the bladder was still in place and the LE nicely pumped and in shape.
I'm still in doubt what to do but for now I go for installment without the retainer.
I don't think it can harm the bladder only maybe that it slips back a bit.
Did you flap it back or turned the bladder tip inward.
I turned it inward.
The idea behind this is that when you pump it up it can expend toward the LE tip.
Jelle_vw wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2017 10:23 amWhy you think the bladder will blow if put inward?
I think once you blow it up it will unfold (roll down) towards the LE tip.
What is left will be pushed to the LE tip.
I will check it but expect that it is not inward anymore.
Have to say that I have been asking around and so far my problem is not really recognized by others.
Could be it's just me
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