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apollo4000
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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:11 am

pikovsg wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:00 am
Finally rode and compared for two full days on the new 2018 and my 2016 Rebels 12 and 9 at OBX. (as well as a 2018 Neo). Being used to the 2016 Rebel, I was quite disappointed at first and thought the 5 line Rebel's "I'm going to grab you by the back of your shirt and throw you up in the sky" feeling was gone. Even posted on the Woo session about it.

BUT.

It takes more than one day to get familiar with new timings on the 4 lines. After the second day, I was jumping higher (yes, higher), landing softer, going significantly higher upwind and was able to fly the 12 in high 20s without a problem. Liked it so much, in fact, that I'm fully switching over to 2018. Everything is better, smoother, but still raw if you put it on the blue setting. Only one downside - the 2016 typography on the Rebel was way better.

I thought the 2016 was the best year for the 5 line Rebel, 2017 was not as good. 2018 4 line rocks. Haters - try it out for 2-3 FULL days on the click bar and then post. An hour session on the kites will not do either kite justice.
Thank you for your feedback. That’s great news. I have two on order but they’re so popular I’m having to wait ages! Happy kiting

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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:13 am

matth wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:34 pm
My buddy who is a regular on the Woo leaderboards just switched over to 2018 from 2017 Rebels and loves them. He actually posted his new personal best the other day of 48 feet. He also said the kite is noticeable faster and still has that Rebel feel..
Good to hear, thanks

apollo4000
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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:15 am

PullStrings wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:42 am
pikovsg wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:00 am
I thought the 2016 was the best year for the 5 line Rebel, 2017 was not as good.
Hey rookie..it's too bad you were not kiting in 2011....that was the best performing Rebel year and the best looking also...i'm still riding the heck out of my 5 kites quiver
Have fun with your new toys
Good to hear. 2011 aren’t available so we go with the new toys and the benefits of 6 years of development. I hope to be as “marketing resistant” as you this time next year. 🤞😀

Happy kiting

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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby apollo4000 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:21 am

Teabageppo wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:14 am
Nah, 2011 was a good year but really raw in power delivery.

Righto some interesting feedback on the rebel changes. Looking forward to trying them back to back.
Hope to hear your feedback great sage 🤙👍 - I’m especially keen to know whether the 5th line has any benefits; is it now just a depower feature or does it still serve a purpose to make the kite more stable in gusty winds. E.g. would you add the 5th line for more challenging gusty conditions and leave it off when more steady wind conditions?

Cheers

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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby lindseym » Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:46 am

pikovsg wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:00 am
I thought the 2016 was the best year for the 5 line Rebel, 2017 was not as good. 2018 4 line rocks. Haters - try it out for 2-3 FULL days on the click bar and then post. An hour session on the kites will not do either kite justice.
Solid review - thx. Just out of curiosity, how does the 16 Rebel perform in comparison to the 17 Rebel ? How would you say the 16 model is better ?

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Re: Rider feedback please - Rebel 2018 on 4 and 5 vs 2017

Postby pikovsg » Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:30 am

lindseym wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:46 am
pikovsg wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:00 am
I thought the 2016 was the best year for the 5 line Rebel, 2017 was not as good. 2018 4 line rocks. Haters - try it out for 2-3 FULL days on the click bar and then post. An hour session on the kites will not do either kite justice.
Solid review - thx. Just out of curiosity, how does the 16 Rebel perform in comparison to the 17 Rebel ? How would you say the 16 model is better ?
My personal opinion, but the 2016 seems more exciting with more pull up than the 2017. The pull of the 2017 seems more gradual. Turning is a taaad faster on the 2017 though.


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