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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby grigorib » Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:51 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:15 pm
grigorib wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:10 am
They took off "Wave" off the kite name in 2018. Must be not as reinforced and lighter. Would be cool if guys like gleiten or americankiteboarding posted a video comparison.
I had this email from SS last October when I asked about 2017 vs 2018 SST
There is some increased durability in the 2018 SSTs with kevlar patches by the LE bridle attachment points, surf tuff paneling and more black in the kite which helps with UV damage.

If you are looking for a good deal, the 2017 SST is excellent, if price is not a factor the latest and greatest and new durability features are a nice addition.
I’m not a big fan of the dominating 2018 “black scheme” for Rally but SST patterns look good.
Extra patches to prevent wearing out are good too.
Wouldn’t justify 30% sale price difference for me though.
If you have extra cash - get 2018, otherwise 2016/2017 ride great, especially for foiling

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby ciscokitesurfer » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:07 pm

here is a mate surfing down the line wave on a Rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPRyh25 ... 8c3kn_N-d7

if you are not 100 % kiting on down the line waves keep the Rally. If you are still want to buy the kite because is a good price then keep the rally I purchased the quiver because (4 sst) I found it a very good price. These kites have many good things but there are other wave kites better at upwind. cheers

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby CaptainArgh » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:58 am

fabdimo wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:04 pm
There is no SST user than can give me some info?
There are no significant differences between the 2016 and the 2017. And only minor changes to the 2018. You can get any of them and you won't notice a flying difference, IMO. The kite on initial release was the most stable airframe I'd ever flown. Just superb in the sky. You'll love it. I had 2016s (loved them) and just moved to the 2018. Haven't flown them a ton yet, but didn't notice a difference.

I think going from the 2016 to the 2017 they did a reinforcement around the inflation nozzle or something like that. They most minor changes is tweaks to the abrasion guard fabric on the leading edge, each year. Also sometimes they tweak the panel layout, but the 3D shape of the kite is unchanged.

In short, if you don't care about having the most recent year, then get whatever your budget allows. You're not missing anything. :thumb:

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby robinsonpr » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:07 am

Wahay great answer captain exactly what I was looking for! Just gotta find one now!!

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby fabdimo » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:09 pm

I can confirm, wave SST 2016 are great sails to use with directional board. I bought the complete quiver 12-10-8-6. The great pro of this sails are: excellent drift, low bar pressure (for my taste), well built, short bridle, great relaunch, tight loop without to much pressure. What I don’t like of this sails: They can’t stand on the beach without sand on them, the leading edge tend to stay up (issue fixed on 2017-18 version), poor upwind ability (I don’t care a lot about it because using directional surf board I never found this problem to be too annoying) poor hang time and jumping ability (These sails are designed for surf so I used only one time with TT , for TT you can find better sails).

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby CaptainArgh » Wed Dec 20, 2017 4:17 pm

robinsonpr wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:07 am
Wahay great answer captain exactly what I was looking for! Just gotta find one now!!
No worries. They also added more sizes to the line-up each year. So if you are looking for an odd size, you may need to look to a 2017/2018
fabdimo wrote: I can confirm, wave SST 2016 are great sails to use with directional board. I bought the complete quiver 12-10-8-6. The great pro of this sails are: excellent drift, low bar pressure (for my taste), well built, short bridle, great relaunch, tight loop without to much pressure. What I don’t like of this sails: They can’t stand on the beach without sand on them, the leading edge tend to stay up (issue fixed on 2017-18 version), poor upwind ability (I don’t care a lot about it because using directional surf board I never found this problem to be too annoying) poor hang time and jumping ability (These sails are designed for surf so I used only one time with TT , for TT you can find better sails).
Good info, Fab, I'd agree with most of that.

That said, I don't really notice any issues going upwind, but like you I'm usually on a directional. Maybe I'd phrase it as - there are kites that sit more forward in the wind window and pull you up easier, but I don't think the SST is lacking. I haven't ridden any of the race kites, though, that I believe are very forward position flyers (for best progress on upwind tacks). Have you noticed the effect of SST's bridle bungee that is there to change position when you sheet out? You can actually watch it kick back in the window. I think the idea being that when you are on a wave you can park it so it doesn't yank you. So, for going upwind when I sheet in all the way you can see it nudge further forward in the wind window. Logosz said something about that bungee changing the balance point I think.

I did not know that they adjusted the leading edge lift (when laying flat in the sand). I'll have to take a closer look at my 2018s. When I flew them I still noticed that they nose up a bit so I made sure to sand them as usual. Is it less pronounced? In any case, it was a problem on the snow due to the extra slippery surface.

I do really like them for twin tip riding also because they are just so stable in gusty high wind conditions. But, I miss the long gliding jumps of my Rallys.

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby robinsonpr » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:14 pm

Good info, think I've got a 7m 2017 incoming!

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby robinsonpr » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:13 pm

Another question for you SST users...I've got a 2017 bar coming... 20" bar with 20m lines + 3m extensions. What do you all tend to fly your SSTs on? I know the theory behind shorter lines = more responsive but less power than longer lines. So what's best for the SST? I know it all depends on conditions, but what's the norm?? What should I start with???

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby CaptainArgh » Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:48 pm

robinsonpr wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:13 pm
Another question for you SST users...I've got a 2017 bar coming... 20" bar with 20m lines + 3m extensions. What do you all tend to fly your SSTs on? I know the theory behind shorter lines = more responsive but less power than longer lines. So what's best for the SST? I know it all depends on conditions, but what's the norm?? What should I start with???
Depends on the kite size you're flying it with. If you got a 7M, fly it 20x20M. If you have larger, I'd fly it 20x23M.
When I got my 20" bar I just put on the extenions and I leave them there. I have an older 17"x20M bar that I use for my 6M and 8M. But if I'm traveling, I just bring one bar. The 20"

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Re: Slingshot wave sst 2016 vs 2017

Postby knotwindy » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:06 pm

Down the line real waves- 20M
Other conditions- 23M


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