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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby tautologies » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:59 am

Do-it wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:25 am
Risk=reward......
That makes no sense and is completely wrong. Risk is a calculation of probability of failure. Nothing else. What you should be looking for is the max payout with minimal risk. That is how you maximize reward.

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby tilmann » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:42 am

longwhitecloud wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:46 am
1 minute quick edit attempt for mass appeal

just a bit of fun editing more in todays marketing style..

phpBB [video]
not bad - I used your video, took more care of the rythm of the music and made more repetitions to create a kind of hypnotic dance:

https://vimeo.com/231833205

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby Toby » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:01 am

OMG, no !

I am me! And if I listened to everyone else you wouldn't see those tricks nowadays!

Please!

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby tilmann » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:02 am

idea for new name: Toby "The Matrix" Braeuer :cool2:

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby tilmann » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:04 am

Toby wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:01 am
OMG, no !

I am me! And if I listened to everyone else you wouldn't see those tricks nowadays!

Please!
by the way "me" doesn´t exist - we are all one brain :cool2:

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am

lol holy hell that is most epic!

i immediately need the name of the software (please..:-)

the music is my music - i am a complete synthesizer geek.

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby tilmann » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:34 am

longwhitecloud wrote:
Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:21 am


i immediately need the name of the software (please..:-)
SONY VEGAS Movie Studio Platinum

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby Lokihel » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:04 am

It's all in the editing :lol:


You only need to nail 3 or 4 different tricks to make a kiteboarding video.
Loop it over and over to turn your 15 seconds of action into a 4 minute video. :roll:

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby Starsky » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:57 pm

I guess there is just no accounting for taste.

We all see things through different lenses.

Skill, dedication, risk, amplitude.... all these aside, we each enjoy a different overall aesthetic.

If the kite is high, the rider fully suspended from the hook at mid chest and there is some sort hand skill going on with legs dangling, I just can't get into it. Good for you guys if you do, but Stoking out on the recombination of 4 or 5 elements in one air is no different in Toby's riding than it is in wake or strapless freestyle.

Its not the most difficult or the biggest move that I get the most out of watching. Its how well people put them together. It is how they ride every bit as much as the tricks they throw. How they can use the pull of a kite in vastly different ways instead of trying to change something up in the same 3-4 second air over and over and over. A smooth board tap on a tricky spot, capitalizing on quick shots of power to completely unweight and invert, a loop at the end, a wall of water or laying out a simple move to its fullest, and yes of course the occasional monster air is the kind of riding that makes for a show.

I guess, that's the disconnect. It seems so strange that someone would rail against freestyle for years as boring and repetitive and lacking spectator appeal, then turns around and presents their vision in exaggeratedly the same way. Repetitive trick centric combinations of the same 4 or 5 elements recombined with virtually the exact same cadence. Taking it to the extreme of cataloging every possible combination he can come up with and presenting them as novel just makes it absurd.

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Re: Airstyle - The Next Level - Toby Braeuer

Postby longwhitecloud » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:36 pm

if you did a a degree in creating the slowest moving, least creative, most boring to watch format for kiteboarding in all of history you would have the WKL.

Freestyle kiteboarding is on fire, no... it fully killed itself and turned itself into ice skating and is now also a world sailing special event. wow.. awesome... lol

Kiteboarding needs more creative riders, not sheeple, hopefully we see some up and coming young riders with this kind of creativity streak applied to any style - we have seen it in strapless freestyle, Nick J is pretty creative and does some similar stuff to toby but is probably less than 1/2 his age.

This is one of the reason sports like freestyle kiteboarding lose popularity (rise of the lawnmowers)- is the excitement of progression and creativity disappear over the years - cos there is none - it just turned into a boring cookie cutter cut and paste sport - kind of like competitive wakeboarding, a sport that got soooo boring to watch that they had to change the whole format and make rules to stop riders doing the same thing over and over and over and over again.


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