KitingPolak wrote: ↑
Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:40 am
Sun wrote: ↑
Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:15 pm
If you can find a Roca in the size you want it will probably serve your needs very well. I find the Roca a little more direct/aggressive than the Pivot but lighter than the TS. Otherwise, the Eleveight RS is its spiritual successor.
The Naish Park is also good and should be pretty cheap if you can find one.
Have you flown the 14m Eleveight RS and Pivot? If so, I'm curious how you'd compare them. Do you know which is lighter? It's ridiculously difficult to find weight information about kites... should be front and center along with the size IMO.
I have not had the chance to fly the RS yet, so I will speak to my experience on the Roca V2 (2017, 10m) compared to my Pivot (2016, 6m). Both Naish and Best/Eleveight should do a decent job of scaling the feel of the kites such that the small models handle similar to the large models, but we know it can be quite different, so fair warning.
Speaking to performance, the Roca turns more on a wingtip than the Pivot. Nothing like the TS or a C kite, but I can literally loop the Pivot about the center strut, just twirling in the sky. The Roca likes to turn at about midpoint between the wingtip and the center strut. For me this feels like the Roca generates more power during the turns, but I cannot redirect it as fast as the Pivot. Range on both is great; I can sine the Pivot like crazy and get going in 20 MPH on my big board, and just park the Roca on the same board at 18 MPH. Timing for jumps is similarly forgiving, but the Roca is more floaty. In all, the Roca feels like a forgiving and detuned TS, where the Pivot feels like a more aggressive, less drifty, more well rounded Cabo.
Speaking to weight, I am afraid I have no clue. Looks like the RS has a variable number of battens per size, seemingly more on the larger kites. I believe the Pivots have no battens regardless of size. However, the Pivot seems to have more panels (more stitching) and uses heavier fabrics overall, so it may be a wash.