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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby BWD » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:43 pm

Still seems like it would end up pushing a rope sometimes... are the leaders something extra stiff?

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby ORSales » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:00 pm

BWD wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:43 pm
Still seems like it would end up pushing a rope sometimes... are the leaders something extra stiff?
The bar features R3's patented Helix Force Tension system, you can read more on it on the Ocean Rodeo website. However, in summary, the back lines are held under tension so that the system isn't pushing at all, the lines are being pulled regardless of back line tension. This helps when on the beach rigging and is crucial when on the water with slack lines from a crash or otherwise...

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby dwarf » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:48 pm

great bar, nice move from BWS

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby iriejohn » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:09 pm

ORSales wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:28 pm
However, to address your question, on a traditional front line trim bar when you've taken 6-9 inches of trim out, you've actually only shortened the front lines by 3-4.5 inches as the trim line is a 2:1 pulley.
I use Slingshot Sentinel bars (which have a 2:1 pulley system) with the trim blocks (the positions of which are adjustable off the water) set at ~7" from the swivel therefore allowing the front lines to be shortened by ~7 inches.

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby ORSales » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:48 pm

iriejohn wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:09 pm
ORSales wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:28 pm
However, to address your question, on a traditional front line trim bar when you've taken 6-9 inches of trim out, you've actually only shortened the front lines by 3-4.5 inches as the trim line is a 2:1 pulley.
I use Slingshot Sentinel bars (which have a 2:1 pulley system) with the trim blocks (the positions of which are adjustable off the water) set at ~7" from the swivel therefore allowing the front lines to be shortened by ~7 inches.
Yes, that's correct. However, to achieve that you will have 14" of trim line hanging down off the cleat when fully depowered.

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby iriejohn » Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:59 pm

ORSales wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 5:48 pm
iriejohn wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:09 pm
ORSales wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:28 pm
However, to address your question, on a traditional front line trim bar when you've taken 6-9 inches of trim out, you've actually only shortened the front lines by 3-4.5 inches as the trim line is a 2:1 pulley.
I use Slingshot Sentinel bars (which have a 2:1 pulley system) with the trim blocks (the positions of which are adjustable off the water) set at ~7" from the swivel therefore allowing the front lines to be shortened by ~7 inches.
Yes, that's correct. However, to achieve that you will have 14" of trim line hanging down off the cleat when fully depowered.
If you don't attach the trim line magnetically to the trim block, yes.

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby bjw » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:42 pm

I just checked the website 650 Euros. Ouch. Will someone release one of these bars cheaper or are they too patented for that to happen?

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Re: another back line trim bar

Postby downunder » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:01 am

650 Euros?

The kiting world has gone mad. I'm not even going to look, my time is precious...


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