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Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby 1rdee » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:00 pm

HI guys!
Could you please help me to chose proper shape and size of the kites for my demand?

Purposes: hooked jumps and other oldschool stuff. And maybe someday (not in the nearest future) - try waveriding on small waves.
Conditions: 10-35 knots.
Board: twintip 134

I'll try to put my thoughts on example of slingshot kites (you can choose any other brand that doesn't matter. I just know about Slingshot and don't know about others)

Lightwind - 10-15 knots.
For LW we'll take kite with maximum AR. SS Turbine in 13 size + 23' bar.
When wind is more than 12 knot - we take off extenders from the lines and have 24m lines with 23' bar.

Good wind - 15-22 knots.
We take standard 20' bar. And high-AR kite. But don't know what particular to take - Turbine or Rally? Did anyone tried to surf with Turbine?

Strong wind - 22+ knots.
Rally in 6 size with 20' bar would be ok to jump and to surf.

Please-please, tell me what do you think.
1. Are the variances btw kites sizes ok?
2. What to take for good wind? Rally or Turbine?
3. Do I need to take 5 instead of 6 for strong wind?

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby Slappysan » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:37 pm

Why do you want a high AR kite? You aren't doing airstyle, just oldskool.

To me everything you want screams get a more wave oriented kite, on top of that I would get a light weight kite for your bigger size kite.

If you really want to kite a TT down to 10 knots you'll need a 15 or 17m kite. But if you want to ride in 12-14 knots you can use a 12m (albeit underpowered).

15m: LF Solo 15.5m / North Mono 15m / Airush Ultra 15m / OR Flite 15m
9m: any of the above / Naish Pivot / Cab Drifter / North Neo / Ozone Reo
6m: any of the above

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby iriejohn » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:50 pm

Slappysan wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:37 pm
But if you want to ride in 12-14 knots you can use a 12m (albeit underpowered).
I'm 81kg and ride a 12m SS Rally in 14 knots no probs on a rockered 135x42 (Shinn Monk) so I think someone weighing 60kg on a flatter TT would be very well powered up indeed!
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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby Bushflyr » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:51 pm

Change your boards, not your kite. I've had much more success in swapping out to a different board when the conditions change and just riding my same 10m or 7m kite. Those 2 kites take me from 15 to 35-40kt by switching out between boards. I could milk the 10m down to 10kt or so if I wanted to foil. But mowing the lawn in light winds just doesn't interest me. I have other sports for when it's <15kt.

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby 1rdee » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:07 pm

Slappysan wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:37 pm
Why do you want a high AR kite? You aren't doing airstyle, just oldskool.
Who knows what is next? I like to jump. I like backrolls, grabs. That's why I'm thinking of AR-kites. I've tried wave-kites but it doesn't pull you from the water as AR-kites do.
Slappysan wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:37 pm
If you really want to kite a TT down to 10 knots you'll need a 15 or 17m kite.
I have 15m Turbine but my back hurts when I use it. I've also tried North Juice and Cab Contra - the same story. So I want something smaller. So It's probably 13m kite.
So now I'm selling my Turbine 15m :-)
Bushflyr wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:51 pm
Change your boards, not your kite.
No boards change, sorry.
I have Nobile NHP Split 134 and I don't want to change it because of air-companies fees for long luggage. I do travel a lot with my kite-stuff. This year >11 flights.

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby dylan* » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:39 pm

if you want to ride waves at all i wouldn't get a turbine. but it depends on your spot whether you have waves in lighter winds or not. we often have waves here around 15 kts so I ride a 12m + surfboard a lot and would want something drifty for that, turbine will fall straight out of the sky the second you ride toward it

as far as wind range goes it's really impossible to say, as you can see everyone is recommending completely different things. personally im 64kg right now and would ride a 17m up to about 15 kts then switch to a 12m for up to 20. I ride in the ocean with a decent current so you always have to be a little overpowered if you want to get upwind. If you ride somewhere with very little current or are in a lake you can ride much smaller kites.

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby 1rdee » Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:17 pm

dylan* wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:39 pm
if you want to ride waves at all i wouldn't get a turbine. but it depends on your spot whether you have waves in lighter winds or not. we often have waves here around 15 kts so I ride a 12m + surfboard a lot and would want something drifty for that, turbine will fall straight out of the sky the second you ride toward it

as far as wind range goes it's really impossible to say, as you can see everyone is recommending completely different things. personally im 64kg right now and would ride a 17m up to about 15 kts then switch to a 12m for up to 20. I ride in the ocean with a decent current so you always have to be a little overpowered if you want to get upwind. If you ride somewhere with very little current or are in a lake you can ride much smaller kites.
Thank you! Nice to have an answer from the person of similar weight.
The place where I kite there is no waves when there is no wind.
That's why I'll take 6 and 9 Rally kites. And 13 turbine for lightwind to jump higher :)

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby Nem0 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:11 pm

If you have the chance try flysurfer stoke!!!
With its modification option on the bridle you can change between wave and freestyle/freeride.
For lightwind would be a foilkite interessting! Have you tried one before?

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby grigorib » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:08 pm

1rdee wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:00 pm
1. Are the variances btw kites sizes ok?
2. What to take for good wind? Rally or Turbine?
3. Do I need to take 5 instead of 6 for strong wind?
Bottom line of Rally vs. Turbine choice:
- Rally jumps great but Turbine jumps mad great (+1 for Turbine)
- Rally drifts well and Turbine does not (+1 for Rally)
- Rally goes great upwind and Tirbine goes amazing upwind (+1 for Turbine)
- Rally depowers great but Turbine has huge remnant power, at times can't depower enough (+2 for Rally)
- Rally is the best relaunching kite I ever tried and Turbine is less than that (+1 for Rally)
- Big Rally (14m) pulls well in lightwind and 13-15m Turbine does it great (+1 for Turbine)

So for jumping, waves and downwinders - pick Rally
For mad jumps and crazy upwind - pick Turbine
For Loghtwind - pick Turbine
For foiling freeride - pick Rally

Size wise
13m Turbine or 13m Contra (lighter) for Loghtwind
9-10m Rally for regular
6-7m for high winds

Go smaller size for proficient rider and steadier winds.
Don't go 5m unless you're building 4-kite quiver like 5/7/10/13 or you're going to ride 40+ knots winds

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Re: Kites for 60kg girl - chose of shape and size (Slingshot example)

Postby 1rdee » Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:36 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:08 pm
Size wise
13m Turbine or 13m Contra (lighter) for Loghtwind
9-10m Rally for regular
6-7m for high winds

Go smaller size for proficient rider and steadier winds.
Don't go 5m unless you're building 4-kite quiver like 5/7/10/13 or you're going to ride 40+ knots winds
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
Yes I 100% agree with you.
Did you demo Contra vs turbine in 13 size?
The shape of Turbine looks much more suitable for upwind, jumps and lightwind. And the shape of Contra looks nice for freestyle.


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