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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby matth » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:56 pm

Tether, much better than drag launch IMO

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby dylan* » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:04 pm

matth wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:56 pm
Tether, much better than drag launch IMO
yeah definitely, just much more of a pain in the ass if you're on a big empty beach (i.e. no trees/cars/etc to tether). have to fill your kite bag with sand, or carry around one of those stakes. I spend the time to do it when the wind is stronger but usually it takes too much time to bother :lol:

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby knotwindy » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:34 pm

matth wrote:
Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:56 pm
Tether, much better than drag launch IMO
As with everything kiting, it depends on each individual scenario.
If tether is an option, maybe better. But not always an option. I have had to do rescues of others and ended up in places where tethered launch was impossible after I got them sorted and back out. Have to 'drag' launch, although if done right it is not a drag, just a pivot launch or beach launch. Drag is a poor term for it.
Either done by the right person at the right time in the right place is fine.
Just have to smart about it and have some experience.
Done lots of both and rarely have any issues with either method as far as safety or kite wear.
Not telling anyone else to do it. Just saying it can be done quite safely with very little wear on kites.
YMMV a lot.

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Slappysan » Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:47 pm

The damage from your LE sliding on the sand doesn't really matter as that's dacron and it can take it just fine.

The real damage comes from the pivot on to the tip for launching and the lower tip dragging when taking off as that's ripstop on sand.

To minimize that damage you need to walk more upwind when you do the pivot, then walk back downwind before you do the take off.

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Eltreato » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:41 pm

Being from the Lower Mainland like you BC, I only ever self-landed untethered at low tide on pure sand, no rocks no shells nothing. I will clean a spot on a sandbar if I have to. All that's happening is my kite is rolling onto its wingtip then flying. I have never had any problems and I have been doing this for a decade. For high tides i always use a tether at spots like third SB or the FT. If your kite is sliding around during untethered self launching it probably has to do with your initial positioning in relation to the kite.

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Eltreato » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:42 pm

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Eltreato » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:42 pm

Apologies for all the dupes...
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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Eltreato » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:43 pm

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Re: self launch - minimize kite damage

Postby Bill » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:59 am

So do you aim to have the lines at right angles when getting the kite to turn on its side or do you need to be a but further up wind?


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